Deamon93

In a "side vs side" mode it's kind of irrelevant since to recreate historical battles is complicated. Besides having WWII themed historical battles featuring the RN is quite complicated without Italy since it would be quite boring otherwise(due to the fact that Germany never put up a serious fight).

Back in Alpha we recreated historical battles. Personally i find the idea interesting but we'll see if WG wants to try again after the failure of the nation vs nation mode in WoT.

As far as i know not many ships experimented with the concept. In any case would be interesting to see how multiple layers of armor would be represented ingame, with the best example being the Littorio-class(with two belts and two longitudinal armored bulkheads making up the vertical protection). I think would be interesting to have something like tank inspector where we can see exactly how the armor is but it will take some time most likely.

The main problem is this: many posts were written on some stats for a ship which hasn't been tested properly yet, otherwise she would have been announced at least. I don't have anti-German sentiments but before discussing on a ship you should wait and see her in action, especially since stats aren't always reliable and don't represent fully how the ship will behave. Of course you can have your idea on her but remember that until she passed QA and ST testing you won't have any information on how things are going. Give us time to do our "job" and then feel free to judge the result.

Mainly due to every gun deals 2 damage per second which is odd.

The internal test is the QA phase

Now i deserve a cookie . All depends on how smooth the process goes. Still i'm sure WG will release info when she's ready. The tier X is H-41, Bismarck is tier VIII material most likely.

Those stats shouldn't have been released in the first place. Are we in step 4 or 5? No. So preserve the rants for that moment. I haven't said WG will ignore you, i just said they'll listen to QA and ST first. There are priorities and the community as a whole has the lowest priority because you are the last to test her. If the stats are displayed like in other ships there should be the secondary. The AA armament isn't listed. I assume we have to wait for the release to see all of them, to be sure.

Even if i do know i'm not allowed to talk since i know what i signed back in the day i became part of ST. In any case here is a rapid explanation of what a ship has to do before getting implemented into the game: 1)She ship gets her model and the stats. 2)She gets checked by QA. If QA thinks the ship is fine the process continues otherwise she goes back to step 1 3)She gets tested by ST. After that we submit our feedback and WG evaluates the best course of action from there. If there are problems she gets sent to step 1, if not she moves along. 4)She gets tested in the common server where a larger mass of people can generate statistical data(since in ST we can't generate a lot of data). If there aren't any weird results she gets implemented in the live server, if not she gets changed. 5)After all that she gets implemented and even then her stats may be changed if the larger amount of statistical data(since even with the global common test server the amount of people there is small compared to the overall player base) suggests so. As you can see there's a lot happening in the shady rooms where you can't see what's going on. That's valid after she gets the stamp of approval from both QA and ST and, as a consequence, she gets implemented in the common test server and then live. Until you have tested the ship don't go and rant about stats since, as you may have guessed, the whole process isn't over(hence they are subject to change if the tests aren't satisfactory).

I highlighted the more relevant parts since apparently you skipped the post all together(because reasons).

I was considering the weight increase alone. Well the secondary armament helps you in close range, it adds some DPM which you won't have otherwise but yeah in most cases isn't that critical. As far as AA is concerned it should be a good boost

If we talk we get sent to SUNNY SIBERIATM. Anyway WG will surely release more information in time, just be patient.

Plus she has a heavier secondary armament(New Orleans has 8x5"/25 while Baltimore has 12x5"/38). That is a sizeable increase in weight as well, although not comparable to the weight increase due to the improved protection.

Anyway here is what Gunlion(a WGNA employee) said about it:

It's just an example to highlight the fact that the RoF isn't always historical. I'm one of the people who want Cleveland at tier VIII with her historical stats but that's another discussion. Anyway Bismarck hasn' been implemented yet and those stats aren't written in marble. They can easily change during the long balancing process.

That was edited, at the moment Bismarck is in limbo. It's plausible she'll become a premium but not 100% certain. Anyway the commerce raiders may show up but at low tier if they do since they are merchant ships with guns on(and tended to avoid/delay direct confrontation with proper warships whenever possible as shown by the engagement between Kormoran and Sidney).

Cleveland doesn't have the historical RoF(nerfed by 4 rpm stock, 2.5 rpm upgraded), Aoba doesn't have her historical RoF(buffed by 1.5 rpm). Those are just two examples, there are plenty more present ingame.

The Russian DDs are complicated since with Project 7 at tier V i don't know how they would be placed. There aren't that many DDs which can go to the higher tiers(Project 30, Project 1, Project 20I and Project 48). I haven't counted Project 7U mainly because she's pretty much a Project 7 with different machinery arrangement. Moreover Project 7 should represent how most of the Italian DDs would look like since the differences are on the armament while speed and maneuverability are pretty much the same(at least excluding the last DDs developed by Italy and Capitani Romani).

Is the ship already playable? No. Why? Because the process isn't finished, hence the ship may be unbalanced. Who cares if the ship now is unbalanced now since that is a QA/ST concern. If the ship was released with the current stats you may have reasons to rant about it but this is not the case.

You're discussing about stats which don't represent the final result. Since the ship hasn't been tested in common test you can assume she is in the early phases of development/balancing hence what you see now can easily be changed. Even then after the release in the live public stats can be changed, they did that in the past

I know but do you know those are just preliminary stats? As such they are subject to change so there's no reason to create all this fuss about it. It takes forever to a ship to reach the live server since it has to pass QA, ST and CT before being officially implemented ingame. WG will have plenty of occasions to test her and fix her if she's not balanced with the rest.

Navypedia also states that a rate of fire of 3 rpm was impossible to sustain due to breakdowns. Moreover in action Bismarck never achieved those values

I know they are preliminary stats, that's why i don't understand all the fuss about them.

Why already protesting about a ship which isn't officially implemented yet? All those stats are subject to change and they will change most likely if the ship isn't balanced with the counterparts. I thought this was obvious by looking at the tier alone(tier XI above Montana and Yamato? Even History Channel can't do anything like it). Besides her fate hasn't been decided yet: she may show up as premium or she may stay parked waiting for the WWI goodness and her resized selves(H-39 and H-41). Time will tell.