Deamon93

Almost a year has passed since I started this topic and I have to thank all the people for the support! It has been quite an effort to work on this "project", started at first as a sort of personal challenge and ended up becoming a 50000+ views topic with all but one spot being filled. I know I still have a lot refinement to do but I would try to involve as much as possible whomever wishes to help. I have a few ideas on how to do so but if you have some as well feel free to let me know. Thanks again for all this!

That's not the point. The patchnotes are subject to change and may be different after ST work. If they change I'm sure there will be complaints while that change may well be due to bugs and/or because it doesn't work as intended

Can you have a bit of patience people? I don't know who released all this info but everything during is subject to change until the information is officially released. I know you would like to see everything but ST exists and keeps its activities under NDA for a reason

Murmansk is a fully upgraded Omaha with Socialist red paint, different torpedoes and a different plane. She is strong but also Omaha is since the guns(the main damage dealers) are exactly the same.

Brynd could you please answer to this question? Related to the question here's a topic I made some time ago, before the change was even implemented. http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/34464-ideas-for-the-tech-tree-and-new-ships-in-eu-as-well/page__p__630289#entry630289

In every class? As far as BBs are concerned the most likely one is Vanguard, for the others I don't know.

Before WWI. The exact year shpuld be 1915 but I'm not sure

HMS Dreadnought should be the tier III BB.

Nelson is suited for tier VII, she is more or less comparable to Colorado and Nagato. Tier VIII is more suited for KGV and Vanguard

I waited a few days before commenting regarding the forum changes. I had to find my topic to add new ships and, after the changes, it took me a while. After finding it i noticed it's in the most vague and potentially most spammy section of the community area: "Other". The very name seems a nicer way of calling that section "Off-Topic"(which is also present by the way). Granted before the changes my topic was in "Fan section" so I guess it's an upgrade. Anyway I noticed there are ships related topics both on "Off-Topic" and "Other" so I have a question: can my proposal at least be considered? It would be much easier for everyone: 1)Forum users who have interests on the topic will be able to find the related topics relatively easily 2)Forum moderators will be able to see if there are multiple topics on the same subject making their life a bit easier Of course that's just my opinion as creator of a (almost) 50000 views topic so I'm biased(I admit it myself) but as well as forum user.

FERRATI'S PROJECTS Here are the missing Ferrati's projects F, D and G with a plausible tier for them. Take note that the tier is based on the potential of the original projects with what-if elements involved(just like in case of Caracciolo). TIER VII: PROJECT F source: https://stefsap.wordpress.com/2015/11/06/general-ferratis-1915-battleship-designs-f-and-f/ There are two iterations of the design(F and F') but they differ only in installed power. Technical data Displacement: 27300 tons(F), 31300 tons(F') Lenght: 200 m(F), 210 m(F') Beam: // Draught: // Installed power: 75000(F), 115000(F') Maximum speed: 27 knots(F), 31 knots(F') Armor: 270 mm(belt), unknown deck(possibly similar to Caracciolo) Armament: 2x4 381/40, 8x2 170/50, 24x1 102/50, unknown AA(most likely based on 40/39 like in Caracciolo) TIER VIII: PROJECT D Project D bis source: https://stefsap.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/general-ferratis-1915-battleship-d-serie-designs/ There are multiple iterations(D, D bis, D', D'' and D''') but I chose just the D bis because of its more preferable armament layout(in my opinion at least). Technical data Displacement: 33200 tons Lenght: 210 m Beam: // Draught: // Installed power: 85000(most likely it can be improved just like in F') Maximum speed: 27 knots(see above) Armor: 270 mm(belt), unknown deck(possibly similar to Caracciolo) Armament: 3x4 381/40, 6x2 170/50, 20x1 102/50, unknown AA(most likely based on 40/39 like in Caracciolo) TIER IX: PROJECT G Project G' source: https://stefsap.wordpress.com/category/never-weres/regia-marina/ There are two iterations of the design(G and G') which have differences in primary armament layout and secondary armament. I chose G' because is overall better than G. Technical data Displacement: 37200 tons Lenght: 225 m Beam: // Draught: // Installed power: //(possibly similar to previous designs) Maximum speed: //(see above) Armor: 270 mm(belt), unknown deck(possibly similar to Caracciolo) Armament: 4x4 381/40, 8x2 170/50, 24x1 102/50, unknown AA(most likely based on 40/39 like in Caracciolo)

It was said they will come next year. When exactly is unknown but they will most likely complete the Russian and German trees before that

WG said Cassone eons ago so it's hard to tell. Still i would avoid her if possible, it may not

Here is the historical data of the project of Izumo(aka A140 J2): A-140J2 Date of design: 1935.7.31 Dimensions: 255m x 38,5m x 10,2mDisplacement: 54.030tons standardEngine Power: 135.000shp, 4 shafts (70.000shp steam turbines, 65.000shp diesel)Maximum Speed: 54km/h (29knots) Range: 11.000km on 33km/h (6000nm on 18knots) Armour: Belt: 380mm, Deck: 200mm (Protection against 406mm shells)Armaments:3x3 406mm Cannons (Layout variant: D - All forward, 3rd facing aft) 4x3 155m Guns 6x2 127m DP-AA Guns 7 seaplanes Source: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/4219-a-140-series-designs-yamato-class-preliminary-designs/page__pid__95470#entry95470 As you can see Nelson is slower, less protected and with inferior primary armament making a 1 vs 1 all to obvious. As tier IX you can use Lion and, even though she wasn't built, she can fit just fine. Besides excluding Iowa all the tier IX BBs known up to date(plus plausible picks) are paper ships. Regarding the AA armament is used for balance and in a ship vs ship engagement is irrelevant(the times AA comes into play are much rarer than everything else)

Nelson is a tier VII at best, KGV is comparable to tier VIIIs in everything but firepower(which can be fixed though sincea 15" gunned variant was studied), Vanguard is an oddball but tier VIII is fine for her.

Possibly, then again only proper testing will tell the balance changes required to make the ships work. That takes time since we don't even know when WG will start working on them.

Yep, less than 1 rpm in that occasion. At least i recall something like that, need to check. Still there are examples of buffs/nerfs ingame so I don't see why they would make exceptions

I think it should be possible, although would be nice to know the highest rpm value achieved(most likely with the gun on the loading angle).

That's for sure, it would be hard to make Littorio work without a buff on that regard.

I can't predict how WG would affect them to balance them out. In any case there are ships which can potentially overperform as well like the top tier cruisers as example. I may check them all and say my opinion regsrding balance but it would be just my own opinion.

Totally random comment, besides QE and Valiant could say otherwise.

Thank you! You should use English here though since there isn't the italian section yet

Yes since they don't have built ships capable of staying at those tiers

Depends on the class but the majority of the high tier ships(IX and X) should be paper.

So you mean sort of like the community contributors but improved, right? As example some people in ST were asked to help WGEU with the Halloween special, I assume WG could do something like that again with the contributors(or again ST if WGEU needs more hands )