Beastofwar

I don't think the FDR is the best ship to pick for the steel but the nerf that crippeled most CV actually radically improved FDR for one of it squadron types. The long weapons lock after each attack and slow planes stay ofcourse.

Very well said....and the main ""skill" of exceptional high stat players is picking the choisests unbalanced ships. This is no secret, it overly obvious when you look up their stats. That is why i think it's funny the opposite is usefull too : the ships they avoid like the plague ( few plays then abandoned ) are obvioulsy underpowered. And you will find surprising ships like FDR among that. Not always underpowered though....a lot of ships they simply can't make them work. That requires real player skill....not ship balance advantage before you go to battle.

In ranked 1 out of every 3 matches a CV tries to sink the other CV and does no other thing untill that is completed. And because of the low amount of players ( less AA in the way molesting the planes, or less detour around them ) and smaller maps that actually does work : before mid match a CV can be at the bottom without shelling from allies. Much faster with shelling from allies. And i believe the nerf made it worse as you waste your time on DD now and CV are the largest ( and easiest ) target to hit. So this "never" is a game mode perception i think. Randoms maps are a wall of enemies ( and thus wall of molesting AA ) everywhere and the enemy CV is minutes flying away. Those are circumstances that make CV sniping less attractive.

When i got the FDR the consideration played for me i fear they will withdraw it. Not because it is as OP as players claim but because players hate its ( time gated ) spike damage. And all hated ships ( Smolensk. Thunderer ) got withdrawn from availability.

Depends where you want to (re)train your captains ! I would suggest the new Dutch tech tree line as you will need to (re)train often climbing the Tech Tree : each silver ship needs a (re)trained captain.

I do. It is my opinion for stats to have worth, they need to be begotten versus players that have some measure of skill themselves. Currently that is found in ( upper league ) ranked or in CB only. ( but i don't play CB so i assume that, but i read in another topic they mass camp in stationary positions and lob HE at each other untill one side is exhausted......so some doubt there reading that... sounds like randoms....) So that makes RANDOMS WR stats have no value at all : RANDOMS are full of clueless players, unmoduled and camo-less players, low point captain players, new to mechanics of the tier players and much more.......these are in fact honorless targets. In other online games you would get no or low reward killing them. To be proud of clubbing these and feeling God...well...that is obviously an illusion. You are welcome to it. But berating other players on base of this obvious meaningless randoms WR versus honorless targets ?

I thought WG said it stays where she is : in the EU tree and a copy-paste version, the Groningen is added to the Dutch tree. The Commanders stay EU as well. So if you are going Dutch ( lol ) you will have to train new captains. Should be no surprise as WG will ofcourse monetize that new tree where they can. Why transfer a ship when you can sell a copy of it again ? Why transfer Captains when you can sell ( direct or indirect ) new ones ?

The ones that do not realize a CV player can remember where there were before smoke made them invisibe. Obviously this is a DD player skill fail thing, but it surprisingly often pays off to shoot their last visible location. Do note these are ranked matches ( upper silver league ) and DD players still exhibit these hard fails. AA off by default is a big secret to them as well, but i guess stupidity gets rewarded when whining hard enough. When in DD myself i never hold position in a cloud to prevent this from happening. Also vs enemies torpedoing that position or hosing down the cloud ofc.

Thnx arquata2019 ! I have still MUCH to learn but your replay made these type Cruisers make sense to me : you can actually gun down BB with heavy AP, in an alarming rate without ( being able to ) citadelling them !! All this time i used HE against BB.....and then these type Cruisers do not work. It's obvious +5 % AP damage is a desirable skill for these US Cruisers. First time these "buckets" even remotely worked for me !

Actually agree on that one.

Quite obvious heavy AP is it's main strenght by what you show there. I think it was quite enlightning for me - who struggles in such Cruisers - to see you setting fire to BB and then AP selling their extremity plating for amazing damage, disposing enemy BB with ease. I used Mysore in Ops that way - no choice since that is the only ammo it has - but i had no idea heavy AP could be that effective vs BB in PvP without citadels. But it is also obvious it is poor versus DD, ( low ROF probably ) and this while presence of radar would lead one to believe it should hunt DD. So that is more a sort of support radar to help your allied DD. Improve ? Lol i though that play and damage pretty impressive.....you probably improved my abilites in such US Cruisers now watching this in awe... Btw : it did give my plaesure fire bombing you earlier today

Garrus is much smarter then that...he compliments to insult, or so he said. And he complimented me lol.... You think another - karma is noticeable if -2 and -3 is normal ?

When i played those 2 tier IX Soviet DD i really had the impression their design is incredibly old ( first versions of WOWS ? ) and originates from a time gun focussed and fast DD were very special. So although they still perform - quite well - they feel antique compared to newer DD with the same traits.

You should go to a casino if that happens to you a lot.....they you would make money instead of paying it

Yep you are right....not my native language. I knew there was something with "adolescent" that covered what i meant.... Ok make fun....i screwed that up. But anyone does know what i meant. Corrected it anyway.

Before the nerf "unicums" berated me a CV was not necessary to stop enemy DD : how else where they supposed to play without a CV in the match ? Well....now you have a situation CV's are there, but will not ( or cannot ) kill DD. So that should be NO problem at all should it ? Have DD and support Cruisers no skill of their own ? Before you answer : on route to clap sorry CAMPERS the AA of clumsy DD still activates and reveals them so they are shot by allies. So there is still some spotting going on as it is passive and unintended.....And well desereved as if these DD had skill that AA should be off and stay invisible. But i sure as hell not going to patrol for them wasting my score and credits income. Might spot and/or kill some surviving ones with desprate low HP late match because they might get idea's to chase my ship.

I can still cross drop......it is only not simultaneously by 2 torpedo squadrons anymore, but you still can have 2 torpedo waves coming from opposite sides with some delay ( plane turn time ) between them. I even managed that with FDR's 20 second attack lock....if the traget is large and clumsy enough ( and preferably a CAMPER trying to recover from reversing ) you can toy with them..... You see, i don't hate any class in game, i hate 1 type of players : CAMPERS for ruiining the game. And by freeing me of responsibilities killing DD ( can't so not worth hovering over them without getting a decent score in return ) i am free to clap CAMPER sorry FULL TIME.

They should, but many are incapable of mature behaviour or behave like beings gifted with reason. That is the long and short of it. And the forums is full of it too.

Does not pay enough credits for my precious time.....sorry Sinking Cruisers and BB does... And why cry for nerfs for CV if you dont want the consequenses of the nerfs ? Have cake, and EAT it.

No not "they".....only some that are in denial that their damage per minute versus DD has dropped significantly and cannot be raised again. No matter what they do. You still can kill ( low HP ) DD but it will cost you much more precious time not gathering score=credits as you could. But you could have observerved 50 knot torpedo's are excellent vs ( low HP ) DD as well. 2 nation's CV have those. And German skip bombs once you know how they work....even carpetbombs are an option now. There is no end to what WG must nerf to stop DD from getting clapped if the cv wants to clap them... And that is the key.....does the CV want to clap them ? I don't......my opinion is when you have cake, you must eat it. So i get reported every match for not dealing with DD but i see the enemy CV also not doing it, or failing at it. I conisder CV to have become a pure damage class just like everthing else now. Newer CV were already.....It is not a big shock or anything..... And i do think the ranting end mewling players that get outplayed by enemy DD is good payback for all the mewling and sniffeling in forums for CV nerfs......they got the desired nerfs....if i can't kill DD fast it's not worth my time......enjoy !

Improve in what ? Camping ?? In a tactics-poor game mode ? You have got to be joking

So go figure how credible all that whining about CV is......

Do you realize what the majority of all players ( save some types ) that cannot hit DD anymore will now spend ALL their time attacking other targets ? And you in BB are among that ? Do you realize that DD are no longer killed by CV, and more DD will survive much longer. So more DD will reach you in your BB as well. So YOU are the one facing being hunted down by multiple classes. YOUR program of stacking damage by surviving long will get brutally messed up by sinking. So are you not a little premature in posting such content about other classes ?

After the rocket nerf they will....hehehe...so much time fallen free to attack other targets then DD now....

Campers ( "survivability buiild" ) last very long too.....that is why they top scoreboards despite CV surviving to end match often. Their potential damage is higher, their rate of damage faster and will score higher in less time. The sad thing is in randoms you learn that camping pays. You will even get berated by players that get their score that way and think they are Gods of the game. That AP bombs fall in extremely casino-style RNG result manner surely does not add up to huge damage numbers, but campers have to wait for enemies they can see and hit too, reducing their damage. In the end only the scoreboard is leading, and there BB and Supercruisers are always leading if DD do not beat them to it.