Beastofwar

So you actually suggest to return to this : Sorry to bring it to you ( and other players against all modern changes since then ) ...it was only an Aprils fools day mode !

I did that by mistake after the captain rework........it made suprisingly little difference. Right now i have the new 10 point coal Japanese Commander in Kaga - 10points less then my other CV captains - and that too proves to be fully servicable, even in ranked. It makes one wonder if the skills are not to some extend based on placebo principles : when you expect something to work, it often does because you believe it does.

And you are right from what i have experienced......certainly the T6 and T7 have almost sawed off shotgun like properties. In Operations salvo's fired at 8 km can somehow all fall in the water around an ememy BB. And this after WG increased their sigma from 1.6 ( !! rediculous !! ) to 1.7. I just got the T8 and have to continue in randoms/ranked now but so far i am not impressed vs other nations BB accuracy. From what i read ( NA forums , i think LWM ) you are supposed to rake enemy BB plating and Cruisers with SAP and switch to AP when you see broadsides. The SAP causes more ( direct ) damage to plating ( and the ships HP pool ) then HE which is offset by a terrible accuracy. Add to that the secondaries are truely useless : they cannot even directly be made to penetrate DD hulls ( 90 mm guns ) or Cruiser extremities.( 152 mm guns ) By 1 mm penetration.....truely unenjoyable ships, nerfed far too much.

Sorry to say....without proper reward im not going to do that either. Certainly not while there is steel and doubloons ( and steel and coal via Dockyard that only works with random/ranked mode ) to be had in ranked at the same time.

The coming patch rocket fighters will receive another nerf, increasing the time before they can fire. On top of the nerf there was already the nerf of very late DD visibility ( with AA off that is ) it will be almost impossible to hunt DD without outside spotting. This is no problem for me, as i simply switch to light Cruisers with rockets, or wait untill allied DD's or radar Cruisers are already fighting enemy DD's and thus are spotting them. But i have noticed it is a problem for the playerbase that whines, moans and reports for the CV ignoring DD. They simply do not seem to be able to handle enemy DD on their own, or dont want to. Or simply blame others when they fail. Tier X CV rocket fighters are already notorious inaccurate ( they fire in a V shape around DD's when they bow or stern face evade ) and the newest additions either do not have rockets at all, not HE rockets or have BB sized reticules. In those i already did not prioritize DD and the whining and moning and - karma's are commonplace. There are several positive sides too : I dont have to be bothered with rescueing allied DD anymore if CV get very bad at attacking them. And quite iritatiing griefers in Enterprise will again become less dominating toward DD also meaning it is ieasier to win matches against Enterprise without having to spend most of the match protecting DD. So plus and downsides for the CV player ( that is not an Enterprise griefer capitalizing on attacking DD ) but can the player base handle their enemy DD by them selves ? I very much doubt it......but then again when you have cake you must eat it. And eat it you shall. Thoughts ?

Are you not entertained then ?

It is quite obvious : WG does not have the balls to nerf this thing directly. It is so OP it has even the power to reclaim already long thrown matches with all team dead and being match start CV sniped by a Musashi & CV cooperating to boot. It would be well justified. Globally nerfing all other CV beacuse of it is not. Yet that is what they seem to do to somewhat tone this thing down.

So you will never touch CV again right ? One should practise what they preach.....

So X clan can simply not get CV players that are good enough to overcome the truely top notch CV players of real top notch clans, and then proceeded to complain CV should be banned or removed from CB as to remove their problem with recruitment of top notch CV players, and their general attitude toward CV incorperating CV capabilities into their top notch tactics at top notch playing level. Then some "CV unicums" step in claiming they are also supporting to ban their own class ( the notion of that alone lol ) but the bottom line is they are not good enough and obvioulsy loose to even better CV players and can't stand that. Or far more probable : aren't even real CV players but just part time CV players with purple stats in CV : undeniably good in CV but obviously just not good enough for super-competitve levels, So all in all such complaining must be seen as unavoidable and thus pretty normal in super-competitive....it is a quality issue.......as no one want to admit they are not good enough, and somehting must be blamed for it. I cannot even begin to understand what super top notch CV player would even want to play among clans filled with CV haters, let alone them being able to work together in a seemless ultra efficient manner that is required at such a level of play. It is non existent. Clans that attract the best of the best CV players and embrace what that class can do will be ofcourse be the betters of a clan that uses a CV because they feel they must but dont want to. In fact this is likely not limited to CV class alone seen the other part of the complaint.... There solved...will bother you no further.

I know the temperature gauge of almost all consumer cars only has only 3 positions : cold, operating temperature ( normal ) and hot. The needle only goes in hot range when reaching temeratures of over 110+ degrees celcius. Older cars without pressurized coolant systems would have been stopped with steam coming from under their hood already. That is why the needle never seems to climb to red zone when you could know the engine is getting hotter as you are pushing it harder. Uphill towing or example. A simple warning light would have the exact same function, but that does not give the illusion of control like a gauge does. Short of that is : the manufacturer does not want to concern customers with micro management or worrying over the products functioning. Keeps them uninformend while they think they are. Relevance to MM : it likely does the same thing. It's design is even patented and protected. Yet this is the first time i see stated by WG itself it can differentiale player skill level...... Btw : OBDII port information does give you exact operation values, the gauges do not show.....

I do enjoy it because a good part of my time i spend in ( high tier ) DD......enjoying that a lot contrary to some CV hate blinded individuals here. CV are reallllly not my problem in DD......remembering what Cruisers and DD carry radar consumables ( or may not but choose smoke ) is. You play the most efficent DD hunter CV in game .....i guess you are supposed to notice this the most. I will follow your stats to see what actually happens. I still do concerning your use of FDR......it's low popularity with you is quite telling when players claim it is "OP" Btw : dont have the coal for skip bombers yet ? Or did you already find them "meh" in testing ? Same goes for AP focussed German CV....not your cup of tea ? I had not even thought of that, but i think you are 100 % correct. Nerfing secondaries that were already inaccurate and inefficient before the rework points in the same direction : subs on the surface seem to need a lot of protection against all that would too easily kill them. Now DD profit, but it could be they are not the class that these nerfs are ultimately meant to protect. Oh well, when i should come to like subs i will be probably thankfull for the nerfs that now work on my nerves....

That happens to me all the time too, as some allied players do like exploding enemy radar Cruisers and stopping enemy pushing BB.dead ......but one cannot hunt DD at the same time ofc. Still i know with some certainty CV are punished for the rocket efficiency of only 1 CV : Enterprise. And the devs do not have the guts to nerf it directly.

In case of FDR, AA is truely "useless"......but i guess it is too hard to comprehend there are other solutions to that. The "high level of play" and all.... Keep thinking in cicles ending up at the same point...

A luxury....i still have part of all my Tier IX tech tree ships unmoduled so unusable. Millions of credits needed. And then i still need to get most Tier X tech tree ships, which as mentioned cost ~ 30 million a piece to module and get ready for battle. If you think WR is important is a matter of ego. Credits are always important, unless you have reached tier X in all ships already and clapped perma camo's on them for hundreds of euro's...... So yes i go for maximum damage = maximum credits. That is why i am not really angry over this 1001st CV nerf.....DD are getting more and more unintersting to get score/credits from. But the player base still complains : Players : "nerf CV !!" *WG does nerf CV* Player base : "CV find/ attack DD FFS !!!" CV : "but i am nerfed, cant do" Player base : "deinstall ffs go play tetris report - karma" What the hell do you ( anti CV playerbase ) want ??? Do you even know what you want ? If you are all for nerfing CV, then NEVER cry wolf to a CV ever again i would say....... ( but i know you will....) But in the end i am laughing my [edited]off in DD too......torpedoing defencelss BB with 20 km range torpedo's while no one can stop/see you never gets old. Yesterday in ranked in Asashio i had the best time ever.

Instantly blapped by (DF)AA cruisers crawling near caps to snuff enemy DD's ...or DFAA spamming DD themselves. Dont even have to try that at Tier IX-X. Next great idea pls...or maybe play CV yourself ? High tier DD are not so easily killed.....

Earning credits is not dependend on win or lose.......it is based on performance. Damage performance..... Since tier X ships cost 30 million a piece to buy and module, and each time you operate a tier X CV you need at least 200-300 K service cost the spotting is not enough by a long shot. No, when you take out a CV, many enemies need to suffer loads of damage. Not different then playing a high tier tech tree BB. Hovering over a cap to spot DD, yes can be important. But you obviously cannot do that too long or end up not only at the bottom of the score board, but with minus credits as well. No thanks.

Yes i abondon flanks myself in DD too when not supported. So how is continuous CV nerfing - or shifting toward CV that have very poor anti DD capability by design - helping in that ?

CV need to get score reward too you know......spotting does not bring in enough credits.......CV ( especially tech tree ) are very costly to operate and need to damage stuff themselves.

I am...but WG obviously shifts in the direction of the complainers with nerf after nerf after nerf. Playing ( high tier ) DD myself i don't feel further nerfing is at all nessesary - the more so tier X CV are rather rare and radars everywhere is much more a challenge - so WG must be suceptible to customer dissatifaction, even when it is rediculous and based on emotion rather then facts. There is one exception : Enterprise. But when they want to nerf that DD griefing sucker, then they should have the balls to nerf THAT CV and not slap global nerfs on all CV that suffer a lot harder as they were never that efficient as Enterpirse rocket fighters are.

I agree to the point CV should not be bothered with DD hunting - or protecting them against their rival DD - per definition. But the pont is the playerbase does not accept a CV ignoring enemy DD. Not even when the enemy CV is doing that as well ! CV spotttt !!! CV DD !!!!!! CV find DD !!!!!! All things they can do themselves, but simply dont want to with a CV there. So again, can they even handle a CV that is attacking other ships only ? If it were not a "bad CV player" decision but by WG design ? ( or nerfing ) WG already leans to skip bomber CV that dont have rocket planes ( skip bombers can still hit DD though ) or rocket planes with a rticule larger then Yamato that cannot be closed. Still the playerbase does not accept you don't hunt DD with them......so what the hell do they want ?

No they can not, but then simply blame ( their sides killed ) DD for being bad players. After CV the DD are next in line for always getting the blame of a lost match. Comes with potentially having great impact on the match. And the loss of spotting both classes provide ofcourse. But it is an interesting notion why players then complain so much if their CV does not go after enemy DD. Ofcourse not only can the CV not be in 2 caps at the same time ( much complaining of the cap where the CV was NOT present and DD were killed ) but the newer CV dont even have ( optimal ) rocket planes but this does not stop the complaining as the playerbase does either not seem to care or is oblivious of the CV's design limitations.

You know fighter consumables ignore FDR planes extreme durable HP pool and just shoot them down 1:1. You also know these snail slow FDR planes cannot outrun or ignore those fighters locking on, once they hammered a ship with a 1st strike. Fighter consumables of 2-3 ( 8-12 fighters ) nearby allies will just kill a FDR squadron right after a 1st strike. ( as 2 planes will always detach after dropping their weapons ) And ofcourse in ranked and CB players do not isolate themselves to an extend an attacking CV does not have to fly though multiple fighter consumable zones when attacking one of them, That makes being spotted relentlessly for minutes with FDR planes that just struck you, hovering right on top of your ship - and coming down for a stout spike damage hammering again after their attack lock exprired - your own choice. So you dont want to exchange valuable gun range ( spotter planes ) for fighter planes do you ? Then you will be spotted for minutes and spike damage hammered. Making such choices go with the "highest level of playing" you assume to be doing. FDR was not smitten into WOWS by the devil laughing at your suffering. No it was WG designed exactly as it is forcing you to make choices. And indeed...not the foam at the mouth screaming CC "OMG WTF WG OMG WTF !!!!" spike damage is FDR's most brutal weapon, but if left alive ( = a choice ) the damage that comes from their minutes of spotting right above your ships is....... The Petro's ? They have designed weaknesses too....

- lack of new maps ? I agree - lack of new - fitting of the ships era and operation, not some sci-fi or fantasy - modes ? I agree Mewlings and moaning all WOWS should be like that bathtub fun mode of a few years back, lobbing shells at each other ? Hell no. in fact WOWS is doing extremely well to introduce new mechanics all the time. This to the horror of fossilized players and WR slaves that do not want anything changed as they seem to have problems to adapt to a new balance again. And again. And again. So one cannot accuse WG of doing too little to renew gameplay and challenges there....

Lex is better ( in silver league ) then "mythical, withdrawn from shop because it is OP" Enterprise that keeps getting defeated. When it is denied hunting DD with its 12 only globally nerfed but still very accurate rocket planes, Enterprise is not so very special anymore.

Under channels ( left bottom in screen ) there is an Operations channel. In the evening there is usually 1-2 groups active grinding Narai. When you ask there you should take into accont they are busy for 20 minutes ( a match of Ops ) and have to wait for an open spot in their division. And they go by rules only 1 player shoots transports and 1 player the CV. The rest protects the allied Merchants. The various roles are ofc rotated fairly. Sadly that is all Operation activity outside clans that do Operations you can get in divisioned order. ( = you will rarely get less then 5 stars ) Such grinding is a bit boring but it is perfect for completing the daily coal and steel rewards as they require wins, and in such a div you win every time but with far better reward then Coop.