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If WG were to remove spotting from CAP, I wouldn't be surprised if they would made them ignored by AA. Ship is launching catapult? Just plonk CAP on him to clear sky for another run

Which applies to DD only, any other class ship have aerial detection equal or greater than AA range.

20s torp reload and two launchers says hi

And Umikaze can flood Yamato to death. So?

You're forgetting about one thing about WG and sound, logical decisions: Besides, CL guns and 1/5 HE pen already defeats "CL won't touch CA by default" idea. Unless DD/CL will stay at 1/6, CA at 1/5 and BB at 1/4 because reasons Although I like idea of while IFHEnri would remain as Yamato/Russian counter due to 240/5*1.25=60. Large cruisers would get 61mm HE pen without need of the skill Stalin bias

Pfft. IFHE Auda rockets. Maybe won't touch Wursts, but anything else might get colonized.

Which... what does change solve, exactly? Akizuki 1/4 HE pen and CL guns with 1/6 HE pen and 25% bonus with this change is going to damage 32mm plating anyway, so again, what was initial plan again, besides making Wurst secondaries actually decent without truckload of skills? For IFHE nerf, HE shell damage nerf could fit into what WG wanted to do with skill being tradeoff instead mandatory. Which still remains as must have, because doing *something* is still better than doing nothing.

32mm HE pen, which means it can penetrate 31mm, as penetration have to be greater than plating encountered for damage to happen. IIRC first version of IFHE had 25% bonus which provided exactly that - you can dent up to 31mm plating, which rendered skill somewhat dubious. So WG cranked up bonus to 30%, enabling to damage 32mm plating with CL guns. Welcome to the world of binary, where it either works or it doesn't. No middle ground camrade

Udaloi is all out gunboat, so 4x3 build (PT/PM, LS, SE, BFT, SI, Demo, AFT) is more than fine, also nicely complement DFAA option. Grozovoi on other hand is actually stealthy enough to carry out usual DD roles. So it depends, if you want to go DD route, gunboat or something inbetween with Grozo. I've went with hybrid, so PT/LS/SE/CE/SI/AFT/AR, in roughly that order. BFT is nice to have, but 3rd heal and 5th DFAA doesn't hurt in Year of the Carrier. AFT opens up some long range shenanigans, as ballistics are more than fine at 14km+.

Well, for late CV2CV action its not uncommon to plonk attack aircraft on top of your CV AND CV own combat air patrol to get as many plane kills as possible. Heck, you can stack few CAPs on top of each other.

Secondary build is meme most of the time, unless captain gets to see fair share of Narai in Scharnhorst. IFHE on German 105 with exception of FdG is next to useless, as HE pen goes from 17mm to 21mm, so only hightier DDs and BB superstructure opens up at expense of their not bad firestarting capabilities, while 15cm are main source of damage, IFHE or not due to 1/4 HE pen. For randoms I've set up Bis with usual concealment/tank build and Aiming Systems Mod1 for main gun accuracy. After all, you use main guns every battle unlike secondaries... unless you yolo hard and consistently every battle Once I was done with Bis grind and after I've obtained Scharn, I've respecced captain into secondaries (AFT+Man.Sec) to have blast and a half in Narai. Bismarck kept main gun upgrade though.

Roll back fire change and suddenly CV sniping might be back. So AA/CAP would need to be upped up as well because sure as hell you can't rely on randoms to provide AA. And carriers already are last on to-strike list due to obscene AA and CAP. Reee if you do, Reee if you don't

Quo vadis, AL?

Last time I've checked, rigid rock-paper-scissors is long gone... Destroyer beating the heck out of cruiser, cruiser beating BB and BB beating DD is normal these days, assuming former isn't using fart for a brain... so why suddenly "AA cruiser" must be invulnerable to semi not-potato CV player?

Well, raised citadel of 178mm isn't going to protect against any BB grade munitions, regardless of tier

WG doesn't play their own game, thay play Excel tables with ship stats. So "on average" CV rework might be seen as success compared to old RTS which, ironically, had less game impact. They had potential of deleting ship in one go, but at expense of looong reload times. For ships with good AA. Every ship have potential to be lethal to CV due to flak burst mechanic, but that requires CV player to not avoid them. On other hand, against someone who knows their stuff, even dedicated AA platforms are unable to prevent ordnance on target

So you can pay twice for the same toy Isn't capitalism glorious?

DD needs to be spotted first. And only speschul snowflakes will attempt to close in and torp with proliferation of carriers and radar cruisers. Even with maxed out secondaries it takes quite a long time to sink relatively intact DD You don't need to "camp". Just sit outside your detection radius to disappear between salvos, with Concealment skills and upgrades even German Glacier, Kurfurst goes down to 13.8km 14.3km. Same story with Russians, which will do so even more as they gain extra on accuracy from being close. And based on released info on dev part of the forum, RU battleships are actually second best after UK in terms of stealth, so capitalizing on camo will be important as usual. Short ranged secondaries in DD caliber only and about 8 guns per broadside aren't convincing enough to even bother with secondary specs unless they get 1/4 HE pen or somesuch.

It will go to company main account, where then will be distributed based on employment contracts. And maybe additional bonuses. Maybe

Secondary builds always were and unless WG do something ridiculous, will be a meme. Most viable use for secondaries are Operations, where tier 6s are gimped due to ineffectiveness of Manual Secondaries skill. That leaves tier 7, where Scharnhorst sisters lead the way blasting any opposition simply by virtue of Narai being close quarters map against multiple lowtier ships, where lack of HE pen on 100mm guns doesn't matter. Nagato and Lyon are also worth mentioning. Thats all. Kurfurst secondaries can be effective, with IFHE they can melt even battleships. But for that to happen you need to get within range. Something you rarely do in tier 10 games unless you got bored and want to go home already. Quite heavy skill investment for something so specific, like balls-to-the-wall AA build pre rework and without CV in division to make sure you actually see them in battles. Heck, no one stops you from putting torpedo and secondary oriented captain on Tirpitz or Scharnhorst sisters, rushing at start of the battle to shower someone with secondaries and maybe even land some torps. Don't forget to write in chat "noob team" when you die though

Just because your secondary kill stolen DD landing SINGLE hit (and FOUR total) doesn't mean its suddenly viable.

Most of these guns are 100mm, so without IFHE they won't whack even DDs, unless you can bribe RNGesus so they reliably and consistently hit tiny DD superstructure. And if you tack IFHE, their HE pen ends at 21mm so guns are still ineffective against T8+ cruisers unless you count superstructure hits. 152mm secondaries with IFHE are of much higher value, but still not enough to justify IFHE secondary build, especially with their placement. and 380mm guns can overmatch up to 25mm plating, so only Germans and US CA are a no go.

Missouri was first WG attempt at tier 9 premium and went slightly overboard with credit income coefficients. Thats why subsequent T9 Freemiums have lower income, although about 15-20% better than T8 premiums. Iowa as "silver" ship doesn't have any special credits modifiers, because why she should have?

Or just get Grozo for like 0 steel. And she haz two PewPewKanones more