Panocek

Any ordnance that connects with target can kill. Doesn't mean its viable and effective. 3x850dmg overpen is all you can hope from IJN DB. And since when I've complained about USN HE bombers ineffectiveness against DD? Ahh... CV induced flood, this mythical beast on par with Yeti and monster from Loch Ness. Even when deliberately aiming for bow/stern, if I can get 1 flood per 4 torps on target, thats a good result. And then you notice flood damage got nerfed to be on par with fire, so from DoT damage perspective, showering stuff with rockets might be more reliable source of DoT. And for "you force DCP and go with bombers/TB"... I thought DoT stacking is modus operandi for pretty much anything sans AP loaded BB? You very conveniently skipped win rate. With Midway and TiTs/DB combo I actively go after DDs, something that doesn't print much damage, but win games. With Haku, you're better outfitted farming damage on BBs and stomping occasional cruiser. Things not as conductive to winning games as molesting lolibotes. Even better case is Conqueror, outdoing both carriers in damage while proudly wearing badge of potato with 36% WR I'm pretty sure RTS AP bombs were even more balans and even dispersion increase from DFAA couldn't protect you when RNGesus said "da"

If you definition of "viable" is "bordering on useless... Arming time aside, 4x option flies on flak level, not under, so attack wing eat a lot of damage even with dmg reduction from "attack mode". Stealth torping is ineffective, as you spend too much time on it. If anything carpet torping enemy CV - start attack run at 10km, drop first wave of torps at 8km mark, reenter attack run ASAP and drop 2nd batch, with using entire boost to slow down you might be able to drop 3rd one. If CV guy on receiving end doesn't pay attention, he *might* eat a lot of fishes, but afterwards chances are he will get his ironing board moving, so thats one time stunt basically.

Are you aware AA mod1 simply adds 2 flak puffs? It is handy regardless of flak amount. In extreme cases like Lexington mid range, with upgrade you can saturate flak on your own (up to 16 flaks, if S_O article about AA is still valid). On mediocre AA like Shokaku, it still helps with long range.

In comparison: Shokek 7233dmg, 40% flood Lexi 6467dmg, 52% flood Implantable 5933dmg, 51% flood Bomb normalization is absolutely pointless, as fuse time is main reason why bombs don't reach citadels.

I'm not entirely sure if "playerbase" requested hard mode or autistic mode, because we've certainly got the latter

You mean they got promoted from "absolute tier" to "absolute tier"

Lower height as in planes exit their dive, so from 4s to 1s mark. Anything below 1s and you might end up with bomb ricochets

And how exactly your secondaries are going to help you with shells sent your way Only case where I can sort of agree with putting secondary upgrade (and thats it) is for those 1 in 20 battles, when you're left in CV vs CV situation and both of you are close enough to actually start with secondaries. If secondaries open fire on DDs with current base ranges, it simply means something... somewhere... went spectacularly wrong and then offending DD is equally potato to let himself be showered by short range PewPewKanones. For secondaries to be actual deterrent against DD opening fire on you, they need 11-12km range. Not 7.2km in current best case scenario. Considering I'm much more often attacked by enemy carriers via aerial means I'll take AA mod1 unless I feel need4memes or somesuch.

You can slingshot your way in. Try slingshotting your way out of uncomfortable amount of AA Thats facet of REEEEwork, CV can get at least one strike.

In case you still haven't noticed, if you lose squadron it takes several minutes for that squadron to be combat effective, which may or may not have massive impact on your target selection. In IJN case, if you lose rockets, you can't effectively engage DDs nor you can finish off low hp targets. If you lose AP bombers, you lose the most effective cruiser counter. Out of TB? Have fun tickling battleships, especially ones you can't citadel with bombs. And when you have such limited resource, it is simply case of efficiency -one way trip to finish off wounded high value boat like radar cruiser next to cap with AA cover -farm happily damage on some bloke honing his yolo skills on other side of the map with little to no casualties One can win you the game, one gets you nice numbers.

Besides, what you will gain from CC status, besides your input being be ignored EXTRA hard? Lexington wise, I run AA mod1 for completely saturating with flak on your own and DB mod2, as they are the toughest planes and they spend the most time within AA due to their attack run pattern.

New Port Defence is rigged by randoms to fail, who are unable to kill first wave of tier 2-3 boats. But then, random teams rig most Operations to fail

You've missed part where planes land their payload on target for kill, justifying squadron sacrifice. And its clear "no fly zones" were a thing WG didn't liked, so we have what we have now

Vangie is not something you can stumble upon in regular intervals and being premium, you can't pick her as target practice in Training Room. Also wasn't raised citadel her "gimmick"?

Except other classes don't have to deal with limited ammo count. And when you carry out bombing run to pick off low hp target within considerable AA cover and despite doing all the right moves all you get is one overpen at expense of half, if not entire squadron, you can feel salt levels rising.

Rule of thumb is German BB, RU BB*, cruisers and Nelson. UK and FR in general are immune to AP bomb citadels due to distance between deck and citadel itself, not due to armor thickness If AP bombs had longer fuse time, it would make them much more effective against BBs, while fuse long enough might trigger overpens on cruisers on steeper drops. So skill element of "drop bombs late to avoid overpen, but if you overdo, you risk ricochet" would be a thing. *Works on Shokek, Enty have lower AP bomb pen, so she might actually fail to pen citadel roof.

No amount of git gud can compensate for plain RNG trolling.

There is. Catapult Fighter, preferably with Direction Center cpt skill

Personally I've put Dunkek captain on Conqueror - improved EM and JoaT are extra handy on battleships, especially ones with long reloading lol heal.

Still, gud enough for mining finest salt this soil game can provide

Yea, mixed one with regular Kongo mr *edit*.

And Greece battleships will burn down enemies with mirror batteries, while secondaries will use Greek Fire for extra crispy

So... ban game options for providing unfair advantage?

One ship was obtainable in time limited event years ago, other is constantly available. After few years of playing, there is that tiny slight risk of even potato getting tad better, at aiming if nothing else. And Arpeggio botes aren't identical, they can't mount camouflages and thus can't get concealment/dispersion bonus

Don't worry, you will get all of napkin Archimedes, Sokrates, Plato designs before spotting change comes