SeaMonsterUK

You need to recheck people's fanmade/speculatory trees. And I place the Nelson at Tier 7, so far your reading skills are lacking. The G3 would be tier 8. Edit: I've reread your comment and no, the Nelson is definitely Tier 7, and have already stated before, if you would also retake a look, that the only way the KGV would be Tier 8 is to have ahistorical guns.

So do most other people. And it can be buffed up to use Mark 2 16" guns.

Nelson can work as bypass to the G3 Battlecruiser once the British Battlecruiser/Fast Battleship line comes out, or branch up into a new line with an extremely buffed up N3 Battleship at tier 10.

Queen Elizabeth, not King Elizabeth. And to be at tier 8 it would have to have 15" guns, there is no question about it or subsidising with artificial buffs to get the 14" guns to work, they are inadequate and antiquated at that tier.

KV-85 has 122mm with AP, another example. Hint - KV-122 existed, but could only fire HE. But I do not believe that a warship should have it's armament changed just to suit balance.

Might be a bit weak vs same tier BB's, but they shouldn't have changed Gneisenau's guns.

I thought it was tier 7, not 8. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Scharnhorst

My counter question had the exact same answer to his original question. And my attitude is here to stay, and I do not think highly of anyone in return. Also, there is only 1 person I see here acting like a jerk, espiecally with their accusation as to something happened in a game that did not happen.

I was only going by what I remember, it's a shame those replays no longer work as I never went on any tangent nor told you you needed to learn to play. Nor did I say you were a bad player. But I will get that replay to work eventually and I will take screenshots as to what was said.

And as a matter of fact, I have replays up from the 1 battle I did with the Black Swan.

I never said you were bad player, in fact I never said you were a good player either, nor was I defending the Emerald. In fact, if my memory serves we were both in the Black Swan. So please, don't come up with bullsh*t that never took place or is not true as to our encounter into that battle.

Correct, but all three have guns which are better than on the KGV-class, whether marginally (Konig is perhaps arguable at this) or significantly. KGV is still useing World War 1 era guns (OK they were developed in the 30's, but the shells are old, that is what I'm saying).

Only real difference I see is the use of Mark III Turrets with heavier shells, I don't see how it would be balanced vs ships like Montana.

I should correct that, 15"/42 Mark I guns as tier 9 won't be happening. Also Lion class with 4x3 set up can get a speed and armour buff. It is the only logical Lion class for tier 10.

That would be the only way it would be tier 8, as it stands with its 14" armament it is tier 7

You'd have to artificially buff it to the point it would no longer be a King George V class battleship.

I would consider the NC's sloped armour to be superior however, as shells travel downwards at an angle. So it does provide an advantage at long range.

Seeing how I just did.......

Another Question - Why are 12 14" guns at tier 6 while 8 16" guns are at tier 7?

I do not take my opinions above anyone else's, I simply disagree with what the majority of people believe in and will argue it, if you weren't so elitist perhaps that would compute, but we can't expect miracles now can we.

Because you have yet to even point in any of my arguments where I have typed something to which I did not type. The facepalms are on you my friend.

Yes, because I simply refuse to allow other members to dictate as to what ships they'd rather have Overtiered. Or is it that I am not being elitist enough and agreeing to whatever is fed to me from a silver spoon?

Really? I don't remember typing that as a sentence in any of my arguments.