SeaMonsterUK
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More than 2 lines.
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And another thing to point out to you Hans is a lot of your figures aren't 100% accurate, such as the fact you maintain the 15" belt of KGV which is not correct. In terms of Belt armour, the KGV wins, however, taking into account the armoured Lower (1.6") and Upper deck (5.9") of the Richelieu, both the Italian Littorio (6.4") and French Richelieu have better deck armour. This is in comparison to the Belt armour, were KGV has a max of 14.7", to the 14" of Littorio and 13" of Richelieu. And my data on the penetration and weight of the shells are accurate, they come from Navweaps.com which others on the forum uses. And here is a cutaway of the aft 15" gun turret on Littorio.
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I said I looked at both areas. I never stated that Richelieu and Littorio was better in both areas.
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Remain wasn't any better.
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I'm sorry, but voting to get our country back from unelected, spineless bureaucrats in Brussels that make our laws and give our parliament virtually no powers at all on what laws should be passed or not is not a virus. But then again I voted out of that cancerous growth that calls itself a Trade Union when in truth it's a political one.
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My original comment was also a figure of speech, which you took offence too so I'll take offence to your comment.
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I'm atheist, so I take that as an insult out of spite, just like you are doing now.
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Again, no good if you're dead. And from figures they are not similar.
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No good being accurate if you're dead.
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You need to learn to read. I offered that I could dumb it down to Kindergarten levels, not that you belonged in one. And my data comes from Navweaps and all my facts are cross referenced and not at all opinions.
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Essentially it's best avoiding the topic as no one can agree despite the facts being clear.
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Warspites 15" guns have better penetration.
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I have no need nor any desire to apologise. But, let's look at the gun performance shall we? You'll find that despite the less armour, the French and Italian Battleships are superior at medium range to long ranges: KGV: 0 yards (0 m) 26.9" (668 mm) --- 10,000 yards (9,144 m) 15.6" (396 mm) 1.15" (29 mm) 15,000 yards (13,716 m) 13.2" (335 mm) 1.95" (50 mm) 20,000 yards (18,288 m) 11.2" (285 mm) 2.85" (73 mm) 25,000 yards (22,860 m) 9.5" (241 mm) 4.00" (102 mm) 28,000 yards (25,603 m) --- 4.75" (121 mm) Littorio: 0 yards (0 m) 32.07" (814 mm) --- 19,685 yards (18,000 m) 20.06" (510 mm) 2.86" (73 mm) 30,621 yards (28,000 m) 14.93" (380 mm) 5.11" (130 mm) and 20,780 yards (19,000 m) 16.4" (416 mm) 2.6" (67 mm) 21,870 yards (20,000 m) 15.8" (402 mm) 2.9" (74 mm) 26,250 yards (24,000 m) 13.7" (348 mm) 4.1" (105 mm) 28,430 yards (26,000 m) 12.8" (325 mm) 4.9" (124 mm) Richelieu: 0 yards (0 m) 29.43" (748 mm) --- --- 24,060 yards (22,000 m) 15.49" (393 mm) 4.15" (105 mm) 19.3 29,528 yards (27,000 m) 13.12" (331 mm) 5.44" (138 mm) 26.8 38,280 yards (35,000 m) 11.02" (280 mm) 8.31" (211 mm) 40.4 41,560 yards (38,000 m) 9.8" (249 mm) 10.62" (270 mm) 43.8 Weight of the shell/salvo: KGV: 1590lbs/15900lbs Littorio: 1951lbs/17559lbs Richelieu: 1949lbs/15592lbs
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Looking at the Light Cruiser debacle, not alot.
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KGV was 6" around magazine and 5" around machinery, so recheck your numbers. And max armour belt on KGV was 14.7" not 15".
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You'd have to buff the guns completely to Martian Heat Ray levels, fitting them with 3 triple 15" guns would be more doable, and in any case not everyone will not be fans of either one or both. There is another Lion with 3x3 16" Mark IV's and Mark III turrets, supposedly RoF would have been 3 rounds per minute and the shell's were heavier.
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Gun performance (penetration, weight of the shell) and armour levels (both deck and belt).
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Vanguard is tier 8 through and through and likely to be premium, were KGV barely fits tier 7 but miles away from being an effective Tier 8 due to those guns it has. Plus: Lion-class fit's in at Tier 8, 9 and 10 through 4 separate designs, each larger than the last.
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Correct! Have a like. Seriously, the 14" Mk VII is not nearly as good as what people say it is, but in comparison to the British 14" and newer American 14" guns, the US had better overall penetration but British shells were heavier.
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Unlike Germany, Britain does not need to go down that route.
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Heard of fictional refits for ships? Same will happen to these 1920's design Battleships and Battlecruisers as they best fit those lines at that high tier.
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14" Mk VII isn't capable of working at tier 8 The only way the KGV will be at tier 8 realistically is with either the 15" or 16" guns it was also planned on being equipped with All the ships it faces have more firepower than the KGV with exception to the Bismarck class Bismarck and North Carolina classes are for the most part immune to the 14" shells at medium range, and long range for the NC The only other battleship at that tier it can do any real damage to is the Amagi, but Battlecruisers usually aren't well armoured Other tier 8 candidates, such as Litterio and Richelieu, are both superior to the KGV class Clear enough for you or do I need to dumb it down to Kindergarten levels for you?
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You can continue saying it, doesn't make you right. Besides that, I got a fully functional idea on the tiers and branches of the BB lines as there are plenty of designs to choose from:
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What we know about Ships: Updated 05/04/2017
SeaMonsterUK replied to mr3awsome's topic in General Discussion
I feel your RN tree is lacking some very obscure designs that no one has ever heard of before -
Didn't think I'd need to mention which line is which, and I've already said that I haven't done a DD line as I've not done much research or digging around for warships of that type for the Royal Navy. Also there is only 4 alternate BB lines, as the main branch would, logically, have 2 tier 10's with different playstyles. Also, a comparison between the F2 and F3 Battlecruisers for the slow battleship line: And 2 of the 28'000ton battleships I found:
