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  1. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Fine, they are not objectively superior. They are just the better overall choice because hardly anyone would willingly choose to do less damage with more rng.
  2. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    The citadel itself can ricochet the AP, the deck, casemate, bow and stern cannot. The overmatching of Shikishimas 510mm guns is 35mm which is effectively the same as Yamatos 32mm overmatch as very few plates exist between 33-35mm.
  3. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    You've not understood what I said. Obviously the 30mm of penetration can make the difference. The point is, when will you actually see that and recognise it? You are never going to fire the 420s and get a penetration and know that you got it because of the extra mm of penetration relative to the 406s. Because you need to hit armor that is between 510 and 540mm thick at 15km for the choice of guns to have made any difference. But you are not calculating that, no one is. So while you are probably getting some extra penetrations from the 420s, how many are you really getting? How many of your shells are penetrating armor that you would have failed to penetrate if you had 5.6% less penetration? I imagine it is something like 1%, unless you are spending a significant amount of time shooting at BBs at very long ranges. Many more shells will fail due to ricochets or misses than shatters and those shatters that do occur would need to have failed by less than 1/10th of their penetration at most. It is not about getting citadels vs not being able to get them, it's about how often it actually makes that difference. Its entirely possible you could play 100 GK games and you never once hit a citadel that was just within the armor penetration difference that you benefited from your 420s because the difference is just not big enough.
  4. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST - free Premium consumables

    Nice to see a healthy economic change being made. This certainly helps lessen the burden on newer players to compete with seal clubbers and will have noticable impact on the credits being earned during the grinding of what are now numerous ship lines available ingame.
  5. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Yes but guns do not rely on penetration alone and more penetration can actually lead to a larger % of shots overpenetrating targets. Not that the 420s actually gain that much penetration compared to the 406s unless you are fighting at max range, since the 420s don't really have increased penetration, they actually have reduced loss of penetration over distance, since the penetration is only 1% worse at point blank and 9% worse at max range. Shooting at something 15km away you've gained a massive 6% penetration, an amount so inconsequential (30mm) that you cannot realistically take advantage of it. Unless you have the mental capacity of a sci-fi flight computer and can recall and calculate the armor thickness of any angled enemy in the exact instance you are going to fire without a delay that renders the calculation inaccurate it is unlikely you will ever come across a scenario where you feel confident your increased penetration has secured you a penetrating hit that would have otherwise shattered. And even if you could, dispersion will likely render your attempt to calculate the probability of penetration irrelevant. The benefits of this "increased penetration" are repeatedly being exagerated. However, 3s faster reload is a guaranteed and definite 10% reduction in reload time, it does not depend on range or angle. There is no downside to faster reload. It can enable you to take shots you might otherwise miss due to cover, reduces the time opponents can take to angle in reaction to you, increases the frequency of shots which results in more consistent damage as individual shells that ricochet or miss are a smaller % of your total damage output over time, despite the reduced shell damage produces more total damage potential, and despite the lower penetration the increased opportunities to fire can actually result in more damage. The benefits of the 420s are not enough to counteract the drawbacks by comparison. The 420s are not strong enough and they probably never will be, the 406s are the superior gun. Unless we someday see a GK hull split like Kremlim/Slava and Conqueror/Thunderer that puts the 420s on a survivability based ranged battleship the 420s will always be inferior to the 406s, because to make them better than the 406s would mean that GK, a ship primarily designed with advantages in close quarters and secondary ranges, also somehow has a gunset competitive with something like Monty. So not only are the 420s not better than the 406s, for balance reasons, they should not be. But at least the Bismarck fanbois who have made their way to GK while not understanding penetration at all get better penetration, more fire chance and longer thinking time when they use the bigger, and so obviously superior, 42cm guns.
  6. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Once you are within range with both sets of guns, the 406s are the superior gun. They do more damage over extended periods and when it comes to actually firing salvos of whole damage at set intervals the improved frequency of the 406s can be the difference between getting an entire salvo off or not. If a BB is within secondary range the penetration of the 420s is irrelevant, anything angled to the point where it does not produce ricochets can be penetrated by both guns and anything that is angled towards you makes the 420s a worse option as individual ricochets are more costly and the 420s have absolutely no advantage in terms of preventing ricochets and they have no overmatch advantage by comparison. But yes, I said the 420s are probably fine for people who run survivability spec. Like the ones who need the penetration for when they are sniping at max range from 10 line.
  7. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Yes, except 410mm(the thickest actual belt of any BB except Kremlin)*1.4(the multiplier for 45°) = 574 which the 406s can penetrate up to 11.5km. And then you have other turtleback schemes like GKs (380+150+45), Repu (32+400+70+40) and Bourg (32+350+50+50) whos actual thickness is up to to 575mm before taking into acount the vertical angling of the turtleback scheme and the horizontal angling of the ship.
  8. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    What the fairly interesting range that is specific to penetrating the citadel of a 45 degree Kremlin but is not really specific to any other ship at this angle or any other ship at different ranges? What a strangely specific scenario to justify the use of those guns.
  9. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    You don't need to be pretty sure, the numbers are right at the website I linked. A Kremlin angled a 45° is 430mm*1.4 thick so just over 600mm. The 406s can pen this amount around 10.2km, the 420s can do it from 11.5km. So you have to get 1.3km closer with the 406s. Both guns lack the penetration needed to pen the citadel beyond these ranges so the "penetration at around 14-18km" is pure rhetoric. The rest of Kremlins armor can be penetrated by both guns at any range as long as the angle will not cause ricochets. The only randomness that can factor in is the ricochet chance at armor angled between 30-45°. And the penetration of the 406s is sufficient at many ranges, both guns can citadel any BB when broadside at almost all ranges. It is easy to say that some guns have insufficient penetration against a heavily angled BB with one of the thickest belts, I am not sure you will find that the 1km difference in penetration will have a significant impact in many situation and that such a scenario is unrealistic as a Kremlin will continue to angle toward you to achieve guaranteed ricochet angles or else you are flanking the kremlin and it is more worth it to wait the extra seconds required to circle around them until the angling is sufficiently shallow for your range. And regardless of whether or not brawling is a situation you find yourself in every game, having the advantage when you can make that play can be valuable. There are a lot of times you could find a bow on BB and drive by them, both firing at each other as you first come round a corner toward the target, to have your guns then ready to get their broadside before they get the chance to return fire due to your faster reload. And due to GKs well protected citadel you can quite often use the rear turret because showing broadside doesn't make your citadel very vulnerable anyway. But of course whether you can take this opportunity or not is down to your own brain to recognise the situation and consider the risks. Even outside of close quarters scenarios, the guns have almost equal penetration and even though the penetration is worse the penetration is still perfectly usable and they have greater DPM. I've given enough arguments now, the 420s are probably fine for the people running survivability spec and the wehraboos who cant imagine that anything could be better than the "Kruppstahl 42cm L/48 Drh LC/40" but I see no meaningful value to bringing them over the 406s.
  10. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    Colored traces

    If you disable the tracer effects, no one else can see them. I remember a clanmate who got Ovechkin and was saying to us in clanwars that the tracer effect was very subtle. When I looked at his shells I said to him, looks like it's not even turned on... he checked in port and it was disabled.
  11. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Well he has good stats in GK, it works for him. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't be better if he didn't use the objectively superior guns.
  12. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST - German aircraft carriers, Z-35

    So we have Z-1 at tier 7. A Type 34 class destroyer with a 34 hull and the option of 128mm guns (5x1). Z-39 at tier 7. A Type 36A class destroyer with a 36A hull and the option of 150mm guns (2x1 and 1x2). Z-23 at tier 8. A Type 36A class destroyer with a 36A hull and the option of 128mm (4x1) or 150mm guns (3x1 and 1x2). Z-46 at tier 9. A Type 36C class destroyer with a 36C hull and the option of 128mm guns (3x2). Now we are presented with Z-35. A Type 36B hull which is identical to the 36A hull and can equip 128mm guns (5x1). So, the hull of a tier 8 with the guns of a tier 7. And this ship is intended for tier 9? An inferior hull and armament to the current tier 9 in an outdated AB-CYZ layout, which is not unexpected for a ship that should be tier 7/8. How will this be tier 9 material? I guess we wait and see.
  13. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Why even use the 420s on GK unless you fire primarily HE? The lower reload of the 406s makes them muchc better. And the guns on shiki have 2 barrels so technically GK loads faster per barrel. But since reload speed is not linear with calibre your argument makes no sense anyway. Why do 127mm guns take 3s to reload on Gearing but 4s to reload on YY? Magic.
  14. Astolfo_Is_My_Waifu

    ST, changes to test ships

    Interesting changes for Shikishima, I'm still looking forward to this ship. Don't really understand the direction for the changes to Marceau and Agir but ok.
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