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Then William of Orange became King William III and it all went downhill for the Dutch from there.

1936A (Mob). And they only used the twin turrets because they had already been made for the O class battlecruisers, which had been cancelled. One reason why they were poor seaboats is the lack of German experience in that field in general, another is the increase in weight between two singles and a twin mount (with the twin being about 20 tons heavier than the electronically/hydraulically traversing single), which would cause the bow to sit lower in the water

1) Modified by exchanging French 37mm AA guns for British 40mm AA guns. But given the size of the Bourrasque class and their time in service, that should be enough for a premium. 2) Indeed, but it is not competitive at tier 7 4) Well September 1946. But close enough. Exactly, Russia is quite a big market, and its probably easier for WG to gain access to Russian documents than Italian ones.

No, because the designs are literally all British. Other than Long-Delayed most are barely worthy of being premiums in purely technical terms.

I don't see why they shouldn't be, even if they were mediocre in real life.

"If you're not tired, you're doing it wrong"

Fixed that for ya.

In my thread its tier 4, Alaska being tier 6.

Except they can only go 28 knots, which is not battle-cruiser speed in WWII

Nope, they've only been in my own guesses, at tier 7.

Actually they can probably just fit at one tier in one slot, with hull upgrades not restricting armament changes, to give the opportunity to recreate historical battles with those ships.

3rd section has been updated, mainly the Rendered ships section.

Pretty much all battlecruisers have weak deck armour, and Lexington just has mediocre protection in general, and most seem to after as well, other than the British Cherry Trees.

10) For a long time Hood was the largest capital ship in the world. It deserves a place for that, and its looks. 8) Way over ranked. 10-13 more appropriate 6) Not really, the design was average at best. 5) Good, but outclassed by modern designs. 4) An average design for its time, got some quite outdated features though. Not rank 4. 3) Fuso is even worse than Kongo. No way this is the 3rd best.

Ammunition explosion of the after 15" and 4" magazines. Bismarck achieved less because it wasn't around as long. Sinking a ship is not the only thing that warships can do. Varying shell quality led to dispersion issues: Littorio got larger dispersion at 24,000 yards than Vittorio Veneto at 32,000 yards at the First Battle of Sirte and the Battle of Cape Matapan. Jean Bart is superior in some respects and inferior in others to the Bismarcks and the KGVs. For example, main armament wise, Jean Bart has the highest shell weight, whilst the Bismarck has a higher rate of fire, and the KGVs have the most burster per shell.

Or an L class destroyer.

1) No, the design is modified very lightly. 3) There is no line to support it, so it would be premium. Personally I would say at the 6th tier. 4) It was a British ship transferred to the Polish after the loss of ORP Dragon, also a British ship, which had been loaned to the Polish navy. Indeed we shall. Idiotic in terms of history, but not in terms of marketing. And?

I would be worried if it couldn't, considering that it is at least 15 years younger. With all the technological advances that went on in that period, it would be surprising if it couldn't. Against King George V, Richelieu or Littorio is a different matter.

You copied it with the coding visible and all, it seems. Goof job, and keep posting the dailies here.

Update! Moved South Dakota (1920) to an alternative tier 9 slot.

We don't talk about the War yachts of Monaco, they're too scary to even contemplate.

In 1933 there were discussions relating to the replacement of the Queen Elizabeth and Revenge class battleships which were coming up to their replacement age. It was decided to scrap the Revenge class before the Queen Elizabeth class due to the latter's slightly higher speed, length and range. A tentative replacement plan was timetabled as follows: 1940: Two Revenge class (Royal Oak and Revenge) 1941: Two Revenge class (Resolution and Royal Sovereign) 1942: Ramillies and Queen Elizabeth 1943: Two Queen Elizabeth class 1944: One Queen Elizabeth class and Repulse 1945: One Queen Elizabeth class and Renown 1947: Rodney 1948: Nelson So what does this mean in terms of the battleship strength of the Royal Navy in 1944 if war hasn't broken out? Well the Revenge class are probably razor blades. The only possible scenarios where they are still around is if they have been sold to another country, or if they had been retained as the prospect of war was looming. However neither of these is particularly likely due to the age and low speed of the class, and the British insistence of sticking to the rules. Of the Queen Elizabeth class, at least two ships of the class would still be in commission. These two ships are likely to be those with the most thorough modernisation, and consequently are most likely to be in good condition. This may include the QF 4.5"/45 Mk III on Mk II mountings, or later DP weapons, multiple pom-pom mountings and the up to date radar suites. There would also be two of these beauties. So twelve of the fifteen British capital ships were due to be replaced, with two more following soon after. What would replace these fourteen ships? Well the Revenge class were replaced by the King George V class, which would all have been completed before the start of hostilities, with Anson and Howe not being delayed this time due to the focus on other vessels, and none of the wartime restrictions. Overall these ships would be a lot more useful in the coming war than the Revenge class would be. Usually the battleship was named after the reigning monarch, but King George VI named it after his late father, how sweet of him. To replace the Queen Elizabeth class and Repulse (or Renown, depending on which was scrapped first), the Lion class would be built, to the 1938 design. Of these ships, the first four vessels, Lion, Temeraire, Conqueror and Thunderer would be completed by the outbreak of hostilities, with the last two ships being fitted out. "Hear Me Roar" What would have replaced the other three ships remains complete speculation. It is likely that is would either be a large cruiser design, which were looked into during the war, as the Japanese were (wrongly) believed to be building some, or an even larger design, although this would take time as the dockyards at Rosyth and Portsmouth would have to be enlarged to accommodate them. Therefore if the outbreak of war for the British had been delayed until 1944, the battleships of the fleet at the outbreak of war would be as follows: Queen Elizabeth class: 2 Renown class: 2 Admiral class: 1 Nelson class: 2 King George V class: 5 Lion class: 4 With two more ships of the Lion class being fitted out, and possibly three more capital ships being built so to fulfil the plan. HMS Hood in 1944, in best possible form. Sources: British Battleships 1919-1945 by R A Burt http://www.navweaps.com/ Conway's Battleships - Revised and Expanded Edition British Cruisers: Two World Wars and after by Norman Friedman http://www.hmshood.com/ http://gb-navy-ww2.narod.ru/WW2.html

1) The armament is the same for all intents and purposes. Same 130mm guns, same 550mm torpedo tubes, almost the same AA battery. 3) It would be best placed at tier 6 by my reckoning. It should be able to hold its own as well as its peers in tier 7 matches. 4) It is more Polish than ORP Conrad, but less Polish than ORP Grom. A branch? Unlikely. ORP Wicher & ORP Grom as EU tree premiums? Quite probably. Germany and the Russians are coming before the French, it is known. Having Italy as a branch for the Germans would be obtuse to say the least.

Bearn will be easier to place when know where HMS Eagle is placed. They do, but most are paper.

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