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A month ago?! @helmut_kohl @Sissors Da*mn, that just goes a long way to tell you guys just how often I actually play DM, doesn't it? Hehehe! One day I will again tho, I promise... To my defense, I have been preoccupied with my current Mogami project, which has proved to be a challenge. I shall return to other ships, AFTER mastering her first (or perhaps I should settle for just "not sucking much" instead - Hmmm?).

Aaahhaah! So that explains it then. I was convinced it was something like +40%... Somehow missed the news of the nerf tho, when was that?

Ahh yes, I was wrong... DM does have 48 sec radar only (just checked it). For some reason I was under impression that radar module gave +40%, oh well. Apologies. but in any case my point being, the radar duration is MUCH shorter than its active time and the radar cooldown presents a window of opportunity to any plucky DD to double back and cap or torp the radar ship or ideally to do both OR just spot it so friendly Cruisers and BB's can engage it, just as originally intended. Of course, things get a tad more complicated, if there are several radars in the same cap, who are acting in conjunction with each other. 4 is definitely too much tho, so that's the time to call it quits, disengage and head for the neighboring cap.

It is possible to operate closer too. One just has to take advantage of the cooldown times and positioning. Especially islands are good shelter for the 30-odd seconds when one gets radared. My Kagero has TRB, so no smoke even and also the Torpedo acceleration, so my torpedo rage is only 8km at best (6 for optimal results). So I get to operate within 6-8km from enemy nearly the entire game. I will make a little detour further away or to shelter behind some cover, when a radar ship approaches aggressively, especially in the beginning of the game if not sure whether they have already used it or not, but otherwise there's really no need to stay at map edges or far away the entire time. I mean radar duration is usually anything from only 25 to 48 seconds (with the radar module) while the cooldown time is from 2-3 mins and they do not have endless reloads unlike my torps, so there's really no need to be running away the entire time is there? And of course, if there is a situation where enemy team has the infamous cancer-triple or double Cleveland division. One can always resort tho the SECRET TACTIC of BEING WHERE THE RADAR SHIPS ARE NOT! After all even a radar ship can only be in one place at a time, so if you see enemy radars going to C, for example, just adjust your course and head to B or A instead. If there is radar also, bait it, once they have used it, approach to within 6km and torp the heck outta that bastard before it reloads the da*mn thing. Problem solved. Of course, the more radars there are the more difficult all this gets, however that is not the topic of this thread either but another issue entirely. Though admittedly, I do believe the number of radars per team should indeed be limited.

Hhehehe! Amen I read you well bro.Spent the entire last weekend capping with a Mogami due to the inexplicable absence of any DD's in my team(s) willing to do the job. Got shot up quite often and badly because of it too. Yeah, I know trying to cap with a Cruiser while the enemy DD's are still alive is basically suicide, but what'cha gonna do if the DD's won't even try? Once, even when we had 4 DD's in team, not one of whom capped anything during the entire game. Instead my division mate in Bismarck and myself did all the capping - Even capping B twice (the Neighbors map) during the same game. Luckily we eventually won that one - After much agony, many curses and endless grinding of teeth, otherwise I would have been rather peeved. Did also manage to win 1 low-tier (tier 3) game in a Mikasa, standard game mode, when I "sneaked" through the enemy fleet (I basically just drove in straight line right through the middle of the map and into their base - Mikasa too slow for any of them fancy maneuver, you know) completely undetected (apparently) and capped their base while the enemy team insisted on ignoring me all the while. It was an odd weekend indeed...

HHEEEY!

YEEAH, but why wait that long? I ALREADY DID- TBH.

AND - WE HAVE ALLIES. BWAHAHAHA!! +

The element of surprise man. We can fly... They never expected that.

Yyyeah, I wanted to... But the Meanies just shot at me anyway. So unfair...

NAH! You apostate! How dare you even suggest such a horrible thing? Way too much trouble and possibly no beer so I can't really be bothered...

Weel, I do think they might be generally speaking somewhat underpowered when compared to others. Especially in the gun department. But what should be done about it? Hmmm... Perhaps IF we were to be so bold, as to make the sk. "Gunboats" actually able to engage other DD's with their guns (buff traverse and reload a bit) and I mean especially tiers 5-7? from Akitsuki onwards they are already OK. Then perhaps improve the stealth of Fubuki by 200m and Akatsuki 500m to make them stealthier. Or maybe switch places with shiratsuyu and Akatsuki, since Akatsuki is the better gunboat of the 2 anyways. So basically put most of the TRB-optional ships (Shira, Kagero and Yugumo) into the Torpedoboat line and maybe the faster DD's into the gunboat line (well Akitsuki exempted). That would also make sense in terms of differentiating the 2 DD lines in some meaningful way. We could also think about improving their torp stealth a bit to make them more viable. OR maybe just improve their speedboost a bit to make it easier to disengage, when in a doodoo (because TB's are painfully slow) ? I like the basic TB idea anyways, so we just need to balance it out correctly that's all.

Yeah, I'll second that motion. Just had a fun and engaging match last Thursday methinks. Where I, rather inconveniently, got the infamous: "You are our last hope."-notification while playing Mogami in a tier 10 match on the "Islands of Ice" map. AFTER just 6m13s. of gameplay!!! WTF? Unsurprisingly, we did not exactly win that one... Mainly because I somehow failed to sink the remaining 10 enemy ships.

By end of WW2 every single ship from DD to CV had radar. So by that logic all them should have it then. But what would be the point?

Oh no, that's just me au-naturelle without a camo on. I only use camo to lure people to think that i am still human.

Awww, don't be like that man. You just fail to fully appreciate the sheer genius of artistic expression, talent and treasure invested in creating these ultimate masterpieces of modern era moving pictures. The sheer elegance of their post-apocrychal-intraspective expressionistic logic of showing the alternative facts we all know to be true deep within ourselves. You see, it is all just a matter of achieving the right perspective. Specifically the perspective reached after 1 - No make it 2 bottles of Vodka and 24 beers that makes them unique and awesome or, as our dear American fiends in the current Trumpian Era might like to say: BIGLY GOOD !!!

Not to worry, I GOT THIS GUYS! Errr....

That is just a theory though. I never really tested that myself. What if you fall on marshmallows? Or into a swamp, there might be gators tho... OR

Well, though this may smell somewhat fishy (pun intended) I guess it would be Sharks for me, simply because I'm afraid of heights... Or was it falling, I forget .... Oh well anyways...

Not to worry lad, I was in the exact same situation when I first got her. All the tips given so far are good, so keep them in mind. Also remember, that Ibuki just like all IJN Cruisers from tier 5 upwards CAN still be used as a proto-torpedo boat of sorts if you are in poor health just revert to TB-mode for a while (while using heal to recover your HP, for example). Your 10km torp range exceeds your visibility range (just don't fire them guns) and so you will have a fair chance to use those awesome 16 torps against any unwary targets from stealth. Of course, you do have to choose your location carefully, an enemy DD spotting you prematurely might spoil the plan and get you killed instead. It is quite easy to fall into the trap of thinking that Ibuki is tankier and that you therefore could afford to be much more aggressive with it than a Mogami (and this is exactly what gets you killed early) BUT basically just treat it like you would a Mogami instead (albeit with a bonus heal and much better gun range) and you should do just fine. For good results pretty much the exact same tactics apply (squishy, stealth, torps and bum-rash BBQ's).

Yupp, I know the feeling. Typically I just don't respond, until I figure out what the heck it was all about and by then it is usually too late anyways. You know, old age and quick reflexes don't always mix well. Though I am naturally exquisitely well preserved myself. Hehehe!

Oh you evil thing...

Oh well lad. Since pictures explain things better than a 1000 stammered words... Our current player base is: Stage 1) Stage 2) And that's all there is to it. No worries, it'll all go away once we're all cold and miserable again.

Smurfing??? Ehh, or do you mean something like a player, who has opened a 2nd account to statpad a bit? Because then YES, that would be a thing (not my thing, but I know some who did).