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Prolly not yeah. That's why I suspect that they may have bungled ever so slightly before, when planning the ship tier progression (or maybe due to lack of it). Tone would have made a perfect tier 7, as is. But of course, when considering they were the most modern Cruisers IJN had, one could always consider equipping them with the same guns Ibuki has or some such.

True dat too... Come to think of it - Hipper and Prinz Eugen each only have 8 guns too... They do not suffer overly much. Hmm AkosJaccik that sounds like something to check out then. Thanks for the tip! They have Tone?

Love your thinking...

So add the bloody Spotting Aircraft already and problem solved... Should be easy enough to do. No longer under-performing while still not OP either.

True dat, however I thought it is not a feature in Wows, only in Wot - or are we talking about the "Detonation"-thingy here? That definitely IS a feature and as proof I got detonated again 4 times last weekend...

Ahh CerVus my lad, all Cruisers have the same hideous problem these days, that comes with the territory - And besides, you yourself did present a viable solution to it as well now. Did you not (and it was a good one too)? Come to think of it, something similar (lowering the citadel) could be quite useful for the rest of the Cruisers too to alleviate the current insta-death plaque a bit.

Ehh? WOOT? It seems to me that since Tone's guns are all located at the front-end and the Torpedoes are actually at the back-end of the ship that assessment just cannot possibly be accurate?? -> See the drawing below: I mean the torpedo racks and guns could hardly be placed any further apart than that, could they? I cannot understand, from where the WG has pulled that BS assessment from... And yeah, look at any of the Cruisers in this game today (Mogami, for instance - Also has back turrets, very close to torp racks). Which one of them IS NOT susceptible to be Citadelled and one-shotted by a BB (or even another Cruiser) at any time or from any distance? I totally agree with all of this, in fact it has been proposed in this same thread also before and indeed why not? In addition to that, the dispersion ellipse for this ship could be made smaller (since all turrets close to each other), so it would make up in increased range and accuracy, what it loses in the sheer number of guns and best of all, no game mechanics need to be tweaked in any way. YAY! And of course, since most people here are besotted to its large floatplane compliment, why not give it 3 consumables: Defensive AA boost, Catapult Fighter AND a Spotting Aircraft... Problem solved and finally a ship on sale I would be willing to buy without a second thought (well, a decision to be regretted later perhaps, but anyway).

I have tried both, but since I already have smoke in all my other DD's I decided to take the reload booster just for variety's sake. Seems to work just fine. Only if you are the team's only DD and have to go capping, can this be a bit of an issue... But hey yeah, we DO love challenges, don't we?

Yeah - And it gets worse than that 1MajorKoenig... See now that I have finally managed to get nearly all the IJN ships (the real ones). The next goal is naturally learning how to play them properly so as not to bring shame on the honor of the Imperial Navy and of course... To train ALL the caps up to a minimum of 15 points each. That'll be a grind I tell you. I have delayed getting Mutsu and Atago for this very reason (also the pay-wall thingy), will have to wait until I manage to get Mösjöö High Admiral Yamamoto personally recruited into my navy so I will not have to go through the annoyance of training yet another complete Noob Captain. Of course the oddity there would still be that rather dishonorably large proportion of my otherwise imposing Imperial fleet is quite suspiciously Captained by a bunch of giggling teenage anime girls, some disturbed anime gigolo-guy and what appears to be a psychotic stuffed bear of dubious distinction (I don't wanna talk abbouttit). But at the least they all speak Japanese (an awesome save there, eh?)...

Yeah Herr 1MajorKoenig, I have actually made a sort of a reality rule for myself, which is that i will actually get only those ships, which existed in reality. Though that puts me into occasional odds with my other goal of possessing all or mostly IJN ships (only the real ones tho) while also maintaining a minimum of 1 ship of every type (well, no CV's - I just didn't warm up to playing them) available for each tier. At the moment I have conceded that lacking a real IJN option for tier 8 BB, I had to take Bismarck and it seems that I will have to concede taking an Iowa for tier 9 BB as well as Des Moines for tier 10 CL (oh well, at the least I can finally find a ship for the Cook eh?)... The Imperial navy grieves, but that cannot be helped. I did bend the rule in case of Ibuki tho so in that sense this Ashitaka-thingy seems similarly legit too... Of course, I understand that for gameplay purposes it will be necessary to have quite a few paper ships too and I do not begrudge them for those who have them. I just don't want any for myself, this is also the main reason it annoys me greatly to have so many paper ships coming out all the time, while some that really existed are still horribly missing (like my dearly missed Tone - Sigh!).

Yupyup, and that's exactly why I use Discord... Excellent way to keep up with the lads and no bans. Though it kinda leaves the rest of the team out cold, but you can't have everything. I only use team chat occasionally and mostly only after I am dead already and never to address the other team. No point in drawing someone's ire on yourself for no good reason now is there? Still... Youth, idealism and innocence eh, P2Win my friend? Just keep in mind that there is always some bitter, seething syphilit*c bast*rd out there just waiting for an opportunity to take his frustrations out on anyone, so don't point them your way (just giggle silently and enjoy your win instead).

Naah! It will be the "Super -Yamato" as tier 10 prem with 6*510mm guns... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_A-150_battleship After all, since Musashi is going to be tier 9 now, that would make perfect sense. Not complaining though, Musashi WAS a real ship and I always wanted the 1941 config so I might actually end up buying that one.

Well fair enough then, though that leaves one baffling question... So why did they not just make THIS Amagi accordingly instead?

?? Woot? Ashitaka? - Finally??? Who the he*l wanted that one? Yet more fantasy BB's? I'm still waiting for Tone... No matter whether you like it or not, at the least it existed... Sigh!

What would also be nice to see is some limitations to map pinging.. I had the privilege of being in the same team with a very special fellow last weekend, who in each game saw fit to ping-spam the entire enemy side with map pings. Of course, this WAS no doubt very useful information, as none of us noobs would have otherwise suspected that the enemy would be coming from the general direction of their own spawn point (I DID mention that to our dearly beloved in the game chat too) and truly I do appreciate the evident enthusiasm to educate us on that BUT for God's sakes.. There should be a limit to perhaps a dozen or max 20 pings per game per player or something because despite of the obvious merits it remains bloody annoying. And of course, it may also be just an expression of some childish petulance, as someone mentioned before, so a limitation does make sense.

There is still time? HALLELUJAH!! praise THE HOBO - or something. Quickly now, perhaps I can yet come up with an excuse to report sick or something...

I am pretty sure this was all just a devious ploy by WG. That's why they did it over the weekend. THEY KNEW IT WOULD HAPPEN! So now we are doomed to respec all the 100 bloody caps for 500 Doubloon per pop...

Yeah, though there IS that horrifying dread moment of taking a look at you Captain pool after sobering up and returning home from work on Monday afternoon, then realizing that you have just f*cked up while deep in your cups over the weekend, inebriated by free respecs and booze... Will no doubt take me months to undo the damage and reskill the caps sensibly again... I am filled with trepidation - I am at work now, but just worrying about it makes my stomach churn - 6 more hours of suspense left, then utter despair! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! PS. In all honesty - I'm pretty sure that it all seemed like a perfectly good idea at the time...

Dude... They you're f*cked... DOOMED, I say Dooooomed!

Yeah... I blame Trump.

Yupp, that would explain it then EsaTuunanen. Thanks for the research and the filler.

Attaboy my friend Azrael_Ashemdion that's exactly what I've always been saying. Still like my Minekaze too...

Yeah, I would like to see Dido as well.

Yes, my friend Pametrada I am mostly a DD player myself and I can tell you that Belfast is a bloody menace in any tier, so I can honestly testify to you and anyone else who's has got it that you should indeed go sell it off immediately and never play it again.

KEYBOARD??? wHATCHAMACALLIT?? Although, to be fair I bumped into a BB player just yesterday who HAD learned to WASD, and indeed managed to doge many of my shots quite nicely. (prolly also invested some skill points on Vigilance too).. However, the downside of his glory was that despite of chasing my Nurnberg throughout the match he apparently had not managed to land any shots on anyone during the entire game (slow turret traverse etc...), since he finished the last on the opposing team. Go figure.... But yeah... As for the topic. I do not see why Kami or Fujin should be nerfed or even why Mine was. i have both Fujin and Mine and actually I feel Mine is better, since it is faster (which is odd, since they are basically the same ship with just a different camo but perhaps just the sheer weight of all the extra paint then). Of course there is the slight difference in torps stats too, but in neither do I manage to land any torp hits if the BB of my dreams actually manages to use his rudder at any point. Luckily MOST of them are not adept... Though I prefer DD, I also play BB's occasionally and only once it has happened that I have been sunk due to taking a torp from a DD (many times due to bloody CV's tho). BUT maybe that's only because being a preferred DD player, I know what to expect... But Yeah, I still suck at BB's, not because every other ship is OP and MM is rigged and both should be nerfed to he*l, but (repeat after me) simply because: OMG-I-suck-at-BB! Sad, but true, one day though - I shall improve... I do remember one traumatized BB telling us just recently, when opposing team had one Kami that we should kill it or lose the game. However he himself was then killed by a particularly troublesome and destructive Clemson (he made Krakens before I finally got him) while the vaunted Kami was the first to die (I am sure, I got "first blood" on that one) while sitting in his smoke like a bloody rubber duck and allowing my Emile to get close, hydro and torp him there like a complete dork.