And they also usually crash into you, and if you tell them to watch it they start crying about and crap. If you have a bc with a phat [edited]such as the Wyoming, etc you need to plan out your manouvres quit early. Last match this dude crashed into me twice, the second time he actually hoped that he would push me aside....right.... St Louis versus Wyoming. Dream on buddy, fine he goes away, then his stupid [edited]buddy starts shooting (arty + torps) at me. These guys need to [edited]off they ruine the game.