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Accessibility is different than a class' skill floor/ceiling. It might be tied to it when said class isn't accessible, but it does not define it. while CV UI is absolute garbage, what you're describing isn't fighting against the UI to get the game to do what you want, it's just not being as good as someone else which is using "pro RTS 1337 skillz" like pressing alt+right click at roughly the correct moment, or giving two orders to two units in rapid succession. No about of better UI will ever change that, short of implementing a very literal "let the AI play for me" button. People don't play CV because: UI is bad AA makes playing CV a sudden death mode Too much pressure from the community All of the above driving the population down to very low numbers, meaning you either meet a newbie using a premium CV, or a unicum. Mid level CV players are rare amongst a rare class. Even when their fix the accessibility, your issue with CVs will never be fixed, because what you are describing is the total dislike of anything requiring you to learn new skills such as pressing two buttons (!) to do an attack rather than one, and not sending your planes out one by one. Triple tinfoil: No CV in clan battles (citing lack of player equity....in a competitive scene, kek) to see how the game would be like without CVs.

Put it as a BB, and I won't complain in the slightest. Souped up guns with improved ricochet angles, good accuracy, good reload and a 32mm bow? Good to go. It's a lot of pressure for cruisers, but there's room to maneuver. But the second that it becomes a sixth BB in a battle (with a radar to boot), and suddenly there's a problem. Big problem.

TO be fair, the Imperial Russian navy did have dreadnoughts, and the Soviets were building 4 different Sovietsky Soyuz. It might not be as paper as people think.

"Apart from screening for DDs, providing AA, spotting, radar'ing, applying pressure and forcing ships to show broadside while they retreat, providing smoke, stripping off secondary guns, and capping, what have DDs and cruisers ever done for us?!" -average BB player

And disapproved by: -People who wanted a BB masquerading as a CA -People who wanted a faceroll ship just because it's hard to get

Time for gunboat Mutsuki and 20km torpedo acceleration Shima with manual AA

Because it was a BB in all but name, but with a cruiser's accuracy and taking up a cruiser slot in MM, giving a huge middle finger to the enemy team ?

I think the girls in question are slightly more of the exotic dancer with a joyful finale type

*cough*

So instead of changing her amazing mobility and ability to be just a massive cruiser, getting side shots with 12 guns, you just nerf her ability to deliver said shots with both reload nerf AND decrease in accuracy in the worst possible way. Seriously, are there any WG analysts who actually play the game? It's not goddamn rocket science why the Alsace is so good, and it's the ability to put that firepower where needed, when needed. If it's too good, nerf that ability, not just add more ****ing RNG and removing some quality of life.

Hey hey hey now, it wasn't useless ! It completely ruined the rifling on the guns, allowing the USN to have an easier time winning the war. Very considerate these Japanese fellows

Explain the Russian gunboat branch with 4km torpedoes and high concealment, and the USN multipurpose branch with no stealth torp until T7. Also, if you want to play the "torpedoes are the main weapon, compare those!" Well guess what genius, torpedoes still do on average less % damage to battleships with a hit to the torpedo belt than a single regular penetration from a BB to a DD. That's without even taking into account hit rates on torpedoes that are below 10% despite them having very limited range and reload speed, compared to the 30% hit rate of guns that fire out to +20km every 30 seconds. So hey, even when you ignore the "pistol caliber guns" which fire shells only 30-40% lighter than 152mm guns, by the way, even torpedoes are less of a threat to battleships than battleship AP is to à DD, and that's even ignoring the ridiculous amount of damage a regular pen can do to one.

Regular penetration is what's being criticized. A 1/3rd of the max damage, as opposed to overpen which is a 1/10th of the max damage. A single overpen on a DD can do between 7 and 10% of its total HP. A SINGLE overpen. Meanwhile, a single damaging HE with a DD caliber gun (guns which still throw around 30-40kg shells, not exactly harmless) does around 500-600 damage when you reach DD that have 120mm+ gun. On ships that reach over 50k HP at that tier. That's 1% of a BB's total HE, and the shell HAS to hit the superstructure or deal no damage at all. It also can't hit AA guns, secondary turrets, and as soon as damage saturation kicks in, damage drastically drops. So really, DD, the class that counter BBs, are asking for shells that do hit to only do 7-10% of their total HP, rather than 20-30%, and you're countering this with "WELL THEN! I want you shells that do AT THE BEST OF TIMES 1% of my total HP to never do damage again" Clearly reasonable.

Actually, I'm not. This cult of the overmatch is just getting ridiculous. "It can't overmatch so it's trash" is only relevant in bow tanking situations, and even then, turret destruction and superstructure regular pens is a still a threat. But since you can move about the map, that's not the only type of targets you're going to shoot at, which is why T9 and T10 BBs can severely damage each other despite not being able to overmatch 32mm of armor, why cruiser AP can severely damage BBs and other cruisers despite not being able to overmatch 32mm of armor, let alone even 25mm This overmatch discussion is absolutely ridiculous as the only situation you are considering at bow/stern tanking ships, never the times you can catch ships not angled enough to autobounce. WHICH IS OFTEN. Especially with BB-like range. EDIT: Let's not even mention how almost sidelined the topic of overmatch is if the Stalingrad get improved ricochet angles.

Which is why the Scharnhorst is clearly the worst battleship in the game, why T9 and T10 battleships are literally unable to penetrate each other's 32mm bows, and why a Lyon is totally harmless with its 16 x 340mm guns on T7 when uptiered. OH WAIT ! Perhaps, just perhaps you're not always firing at bow tanking targets, especially in ships that can move about the map quickly.

-50% on Krispy Kreme or riot @MrConway

And it also manages to nail you with 12 very high damage HE or AP shells consistently. It achieves high practical DPM by having much better practical accuracy (dispersion and shell velocity) than anything short of a Moskva. A Zao at 12km+ is much scarier than a Des Moines, despite having 100k less HE DPM, and only a bit over half the AP DPM

Using my brand new stock Z-46, torp'ing smoke, killing a DD. Getting flushed out of my own by a suicidal Neptune and Haida, launch one last salvo of torpedoes at the Haida in his smoke, and end up killing both the Haida and another DD I had no idea was there.

27mm bow and deck plating. Hardened baguette armor > 380mm AP boi

We have been the opposite of monarch fanboys since a fateful day in 1789 I'll tell you something, it makes for awkwardly funny conversation when you in-laws are from a European monarchy, and very much like their queen

Only the Payfast can smoke+radar wat Zao weak, pls buff WG. Mogami? clearly needs more guns. Clear something up for me... When have RN CLs ever been actually different to now? You were going well in the first part of that sentence, but it crashed and burned at the end. USN CLs aren't OP. Some aspect might be downright broken (*cough* 9.1-9.5km concealment with 9-9.9km radars), but OP? Nope.

Flip a coin and roll a 6 sided dice at the same time. Want to bet that you'll get tails on the coin more often than you'll get a 6 on the dice? Random is random, but that doesn't mean that all of the outcomes are equal, or have to be. It's own WG distributes things inside containers, each item has a more or less greater chance of being given than another.

Indeed, but I'm still waiting for my complimentary Nikolai and Payfast.