Exocet6951

How did you only get 400 and 200xp holy crap.... I mean, not to sound too rude or anything, but stop playing T10 this instant. A game like that can happen once in a while, such as if you get detonated, but using it as an example? Seriously, this is as much for you as it is for everyone else. Go back to tier 3, learn the basics and build from there.

When you look at the screenshot, it shows a Yamato tanking 167 shells from a Henri IV with the IFHE skill, and what the screenshot doesn't show you is that 2 Grosse Kurfusts also shot at it. It survived for well over 10 minutes of constant shelling. So Yamato's armor weak, and Yamato in general being weak? Nope. Not even close.

Yamato armor weak, pls buff Only resisted 240mm HE and AP, along with two GK for 10 minutes in a row (no exageration). Glorious nippon armor folded 10 million times should be able to tank 20 minutes' worth of damage.

Indeed, it's a very hard position to disagree with

See my point above. You can't selectively pick out the facts that benefit BBs the most, then ignore the others. It simply can't work that way.

That's my entire bloody point.... Selectively picking historical facts is idiotic, thus having BB AP arm on DDs because historically they could have is nonsensical, especially since both low caliber HE and torpedoes are effectively neutered in the game, and for good reasons. Either do everything historically, or drop the "historical" aspect in favor of gameplay balance.

Because it's selective realism. You're selectively explaining why it's totally ok to arm shells on DDs, while at the same time not doing the same for the absolutely crushing damage torpedoes have IRL. Either you balance every weapons historically, or you accept gameplay balance. But you can't pick and choose what suits you.

Obligatory De Grasse post: "Nice ship you got there, it would be a shame if it...caught fire..."- De Grasse captain, circa 1957

The second you start adding caveats to your claim in order to be right is the second that your argument crumbles. In basically every single case that comes to mind, a single torpedo hit means hurrying back to port for repairs, if you haven't sunk or had your propulsion/rudder blown off. For example Musashi: And that's just one torpedo with 230kg of explosives. IE: the low end of the explosive charge specter, and it was enough to cause rather concerning flooding. Or one of my favorite ships of all time, the Prince of Wales: Single 450mm airborne torpedo with 240kg of explosives. Or hell, the Littorio : Torpedoes with 170kg of explosives. Two hits to the bow caused her to sink on the seafloor, which was luckily for her very shallow. Same attack that sunk the Conte di Cavour, same tiny torpedoes. And understand that these are all torpedoes with a very low amount of explosives, considering some of the late war 533mm, and the monstrouosly large 610mm torpedoes that are in game. So if you want to start playing the "but muh 410mm shells" argument, alright...but in that case you have to accept a single high tier DD torpedo hitting your high tier ship sinking it outright, and only needing 2 low tier torpedoes to sink just about any battleship in the game, including those historically with the most advanced torpedo protection.

Now now, temper that point of view a bit. If it's drunk but still capable of playing within (a subjective I will grant you) an acceptable norm, it's all good. If it's blackout "what does this button do lol?", then yes, a [edited] move.

Want to revisit that statement?

By that logic, it's a torpedo, 300 to 700kg of explosives exploding in the water. Do you really think it should only be doing a 1/6th of a BB's HP in damage?

BBs dealing damage to DDs with filthy amounts of overconfidencetm working as intended

It's actually this exact topic, as the title implies.

If someone is acting like an complete idiot in a multiplayer PvP (ergo by definition a competition) and is actively sabotaging the team, I'm not going to go around sparing his feelings. He has no regard for 11 people nor their time, and since I'm not of objectively superior moral nor claim to be, I don't see why I'm expected to regard his feeling. You are allowed to play poorly and make mistakes. I won't call you out on that. But the second you have gameplay behavior that simply unacceptable in a (by definition competitive) multiplayer game, I'm calling you out on it. It won't be a drawn out tirade, it will be a slap on the wrist, short, single sentence reprimand to tell him that he's simply unacceptable. We have been over this discussion at least twice already, and no, I'm not changing my mind over this any time soon. I'm not addressing a child, I'm not criminally harrassing anyone, I'm calling someone acting like an idiot an idiot. If you want to feel superior to me by saying that you would never stoop to such level, go ahead. I'll just be a normal human being with normal human behavior and normal human reaction to a simply abnormal behavior that SHOULD be reprimanded in the context of competitive game, much the same way that a football player in a competitive game would be booted the hell out without a "please and thank you" if he started sabotaging his own team.

Sailing backwards towards the enemy in a Yamato spamming HE for 3 minutes before dying = totally ok behavior because "play 4 phun" Telling someone that sailing backwards at the enemy in a Yamato spamming HE is bad, and is an idiot for doing so 3 minutes in a row before dying in a team PvP game = super toxic and bannable behavior from evil high stat player

I want them to panic some more, as I find it hilarious to see a few lightly armored cruisers lose 9k hp when my 155mm secondaries citpen them, as a sort of amuse-bouche to the 460mm horrors to come

I tried that once. Got bored and compensated by playing a full secondary Yamato for a few battles the lolz. Turns out that people are ****ing terrified of a Yamato charging at then, and do the stupidest of things.

"the numbers from thousands of people seem to show that she's overperforming, but does she feel OP to you personally?" Really? Kron is overlooked because its Chad older brother the Stalingrad barged in to the game, and has been the center of conversation ever since. By the way, something doesn't have to be Belfast or Kamikaze levels of OP in order to be unbalanced.

Kronshtadt U.S.S.R. 165 787 57.01 % 0.82 69 315 Seattle U.S.A. 202 546 52.96 % 0.65 51 260 1 485 1.86 1.23 Saint-Louis France 641 833 51.76 % 0.66 57 338 1 420 1.28 1.26 PS: I'm giving up on the forum's auto content editing.

Something just popped into mind... If long range AA is going to be avoidable and rather neutered, that means that a very AA oriented ship like the Atlanta is going to be very negatively impacted, right? You know what that means? Time to buff that waifu.

I had a game last night where I dodged a torpedo salvo, both me and the enemy DD responsible for those torpedoes both saw me dodge, then one of the torpedoes at my side and half a hull away just exploded and damaged me. Very next game on an operation, I activated DFAA when TBs were headed my way, well in advanced of the drop, and only half of the planes were affected by panic. Memes. Subsequent games showed continuously ridiculous things. Client side connection issues don't explain two people seeing the same illogical thing. Especially not when I have spotted no significant difference between playing on a regular ADSL or fiber optics.

Because war in reality is 90% boredom and repetitive tasks, then 10% pants shitting terror where you just try to hold it together as best as you can ? That doesn't make for particularily good gameplay. Gameplay being the operative term. And don't forget: it's always your fault. If a random lowbob in a bottom tier BB decides to turn around to hang back in spawn, and an enemy CV strike takes him out because lol Normandie AA vs Shokaku, it's all your fault for not granting him your divine protection. Depressing. People are just too potato. Playing a CV decently is like being an overworked nurse in a geriatric ward. No matter how hard you try, M.Daniels the rampant racist with dementia who nonsensically calls you a filthy immigrant is finally going to free himself when you're distracted, and run straight into traffic.