Mad_Dog_Dante

Yeah great. Like I said I'm sure you are a great player, but I'm telling you, there's hardly any need to get annihilated because of radar ships, if you learn how to handle them. But if you cherish your opinion over learning stuff from people on this forum, well that's entirely your prerogative.

You wield arguments like you mitigate radar ships. But it's true, it depends on how you play your destroyer.

Spotting Moskva's from within your smoke... I think that losing a smoke consumable over a CV's fighter plane consumable is a bad trade for the DD. Even if you have to use it to save yourself it's still a bad trade. Look, you're probably a great player, but if you have trouble negating radar ships, you should train yourself a bit in it. It's an important skill.

^^ my point entirely - if you can't keep an eye on a moskva in your DD, and think the CV loses an encounter where you spend a smoke consumable and the CV spends a fighter consumable, well what can I say

If you can't play around radar by now you probably shouldn't be in a destroyer ^^

These are predatory gambling practices on kids and teenagers and do not belong in games rated suitable for teenagers. The rating of this game should go up to full 18+ as this aspect of the game is mirroring an online casino and has nothing to do with shooting botes.

Being bullied in a Grozovoi was ironically the one experience that made me decide to stop playing surface ships in 0.8.0 and start bullying surface ships myself. It's still not something any good tier X carrier will care to respect.

I pay premium to have my smokestack show movement when in fact I'm at 0 knts.

One can dream, I would welcome it. Love these ships and WG do make awesome models.

WG never embraced the unified account promise by splitting doubloons and gold between their 3 main titles. So I bought my first, and last, WOWS specific premium year last year when it was 50% off. Great deal, but the last one i'll take.

That Assashio looks pretty weird to me

I can assure you that to be able to stand on the ships decks requiers a whole different level of detail. I'm pretty sure the current models and textures are geared towards the optimal balance between visuals and performance and not suitable for any closer inspection.

Nice idea, impossible to execute. The level of detail requiered will take insane amounts of manhours in artwork. The ROI is too small.

Which is entirely their own doing, by design.

Oh lookie here -> Steel ships

Please stay on topic instead of questioning forum moderation. Getting deplaned in 8 minutes sounds like a bad play to me. But from what ive understand the GZ could use some love from WG compared to the other carriers.

I'm not a proficient BB player but I do play them, and every time I do I'm amazed by how fragile cruisers are especially at mid tiers. Sure the dispersion can be RNG terribad, but f it isn't it's God like destructive for the cruisers on the receiving end. The reason why RNG is such a big factor in BB guns is nobody should want that much effective alpha at every salvo, from each of the 5 battleships per team. There wouldn't be any cruisers or destroyers left after 3 minutes of round time had passed. I also I kill off plenty of wounded destroyers at medium ranges like 12 to 15 km away, with regular AP. Again with the spread BB's have. The most annoying ships are long range HE spamming ones. But when you are not insta striking cruisers for 2\3rd of their HP, you are expected to chip damage and land an occasional citadel until you do. I fail to understand how you are saying that you are not hard countering cruisers at tier 5 to 7. You probably need to learn to fire at more opportune moments and positions. But that's hard to say without seeing you play.

Ive never understood WG tendency to give award ships that are really strong to players that most like already are proficient at the game due to the amount of time they spend grinding. It's like reversed handicap scoring: if you're already good you will get a strong ship on top. Why? Give them ships that are different, sure, but balance them for the people that will play these boats.

I understand where you are coming from. I do have similar experiences, the first was my beautiful Blyska which turned from a godlike invispam machine into an average power creeped regular DD. The last attempt of WG to change premium products was the infamous Giulio Cesare. I expect a time limited use of most premiums, everything changes constantly. I feel I have had enough fun for my money out of the Big E. But I do feel WG still owes me some fun times in the GZ. I really only started playing Carriers because it was the only option left for me when 0.8.0 came out. Once I was harassed endlessly by a Midway in my Grozovoi, unable to do anything but mitigate damage thrown at me while shooting down very little in return, I knew it was either quit playing this monstrously bad update of my beloved game, or join the dark side until it was brought down to acceptable levels. But I never liked the gameplay of the carriers itself. I only enjoyed being topdog in most matches, it compensated the shallow experience. And I could do what I like most: help and support teammates, even if it wasn't the cool and smart thing to do. The damage output of carriers was so generous at the time that it didn't matter if I wasn't 100% damage focussed. They are in a better state now balance wise, but what is left is a rather boring experience, as I expected. But that's fine because I am enjoying my other ships again now that the carrier impact has been normalised. I think some have a hard time admitting that the fun part of carriers was being an untouchable bully. And they seem surprised by how unfun it is when they can't be that.

Guys guys, CV refund?

They are more fair then ever before. Are they fun? I stopped playing them because they aren't, but I never expected them to be fun once they were made fair, which is why you don't hear me ask for a refund. Their gameplay is simply way too shallow, spam oriented, damage focused and repetitive.

Again, I am not saying they can't be balanced. They can. They won't be fun though, like now. If you think they can be fun and balanced, I'm all ears on how they can be fun without being bullies to everyone else. I think the main reason why there was a big influx of carriers from 0.8.0 to 0.8.3 was because they were new, and because it was dead easy to pwn everything on the battlefield, the fun part. I think the CV population died after 0.8.5 because they stopped being fun, despite being more balanced then ever before.

Sure they can be balanced. I didn't say they can't be balanced. I said they can't be balanced and fun at the same time.

This is the whole Crux of the rework, like @El2aZeR has been pointing out for ages: reworked carriers can't be balanced and fun at the same time. They are only fun when unbalanced.

Can you please stop triggering me ktnxbai