Mad_Dog_Dante

I don't play for either ships. I play for entertainment value, and replay fun lines for that (IJN cruisers, DD lines and carrier line for now). For me resetting a few lines brought back some of the enjoyment i had for the game, which I was steadily losing with WG pushing everything to tier 9 and 10. I'm sure other ships or rewards will be added, so I'll just hold on to my tokens until something passes by that I like.

The Friesland so far in my experience is fine, and good enough as a reward ship, but too expensive. We differ in opinion on it, so you can stop use 'bad' as an argument ^^ No, reward ships don't have to be bad ships, did I say that? Yes, reward ships should be harder to master (iow. perform at uniqum levels), or at least stay far away from being more potent compared to it's sister and cousin ships. Players earning those ships are supposed to have experience enough to make normal ships perform at optimal or unicum levels. If they can't, they are only good at grinding. Grinding alone does not justify earning ships that overperform either. Ships can offer variation in gameplay, but it should defenitely not offer overperformance by itself. Nor should it be bad. If the Friesland turns out to be performing bad, by all means let them buff it. I would love a speed boost consumable or 2 repairs. You won't hear me complain if they add that

Spot on. We seem to have two trains of thought here, people looking for the next overly strong ship to compliment their lack of skill or need to dominate competitively, and people looking for a new experience at the same level of other ships. The Friesland is not a broken ship, not should it be. It is not OP, nor UP Which is actually great. But it is expensive for what it is. We probably should get used to expensive ships. I would love for her to get speed boost as consumable though.

or 4) You love ships that offer a unique gameplay experience and you don't nessecerily need an obvious and overly strong one to perform well because your basic skill level is good.

Agreed, and that is a good thing actually. I think any reward ship should be hard to master, as they are usually bought and played by players who are supposed to have gathered actual experience next to FXP, coal or other ingame currency.

A ship that can heal part of it's hitpoints, usually only found in higher tiers. Open water cruisers use range, speed and manouvrability to mitigate incoming damage in open waters while shooting.

Poor sod. Getting a ship you don't like Well, I got the hang of it, and it's counter to my usual laid back play style, but she's a keeper though. My 3rd match was the biggest test for me, a tier VIII carrier. It couldn't get a hit on me, it tried several squads and passes as I chased her at 8 km, and evading seemed pretty darn easy in this thing :o Below 4th match, I'll stop posting match results in this thread, and they were all top tier anyway, but I must say that my initial sarcasm about it turned into fanatism

DD signals: -100% splosion, speed boost flag, -5% consumables, +0.5% fire flag, +15% leakage flag (unless torps are short range and hardly used), and the other one (0.5% and 15% combo). On any DD with healthboost use the +20% HP recover flag :D

You are right ofcoarse ^^ I played 3 rounds, and after getting deleted in the first because I was very, very, i repeat, very stupid, I actually was quite well off in the second and third. It plays like a rollecoaster with beebee guns.

I just got a Terrible mission from those crates. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna hate it.

I've reset 4 IJN lines, but am not sure when I'll reach tier X on all of them. CV, cruiser and 2 DD lines. How much points would that be? I won't get the Colbert, might be more interested in the Ohio, but would actually would love a great tier 7 cruiser, carrier or DD.

For anyone interested in resetting: I've been pondering about the game and it's current state, which is borderline bored with everything but the core gameplay, and decided to reset as many tech trees as I can. I am just curious if a reset can breath new life into the game for me. I don't like ranked, am in an inactive clan and can't be arsed to grind much these days. So I thought to myself, what the heck, it can't get any worse then this. I also have plenty of premium ships, and think of this as setting up a second account but with benefits as I'm loaded with credits, freeXP and over 200 days of premium time. So, I just reset the first line, the IJN cruisers. I love the ship line, but hardly play the Zao, so I won't miss her. Looking forward to the mid tier games. I've decided not to freeXP my way through any ship in this line. That might not be the case with other lines (IJN BB's I'm looking at you). Short version; I'm having a great time actually EDIT: Just to be clear, for me, this is not about grinding my way towards the Colbert or Ohio. Also I just reset the IJN CV and both IJN DD lines too. Did you reset yet? What do you think about resetting all your trees to start the game fresh? My IJN reset so far EDIT - I'll keep progress and fun-o-meter updated here ------------------------------------------------------------- Cruiser line Hashidate was fun - 1 match to progress (won) Chikuma was hilarious - 1 match to progress (won) Tenryu was MEHBOTE - 5 matches to progress (4 lost) Kuma SEXBOTE - 3 matches to progress (1 lost, played 1 extra for funzies) Furutaka - A beast when upgraded (4 wins no losses, progressed) Aoba was not all bad - 15 matches to progress (too many tier VIII heavy matches) Myoko - awesome, it takes longer to get to the next tier but that's actually great, as I like this ship Mogami - totallly worth the reset - i forgot how awesome she is ------------------------------------------------------------- CV line Hosho - evil, sealclubbing 3.0 ------------------------------------------------------------- DD line Wakatake - done Isokaze- Great fun, but a bit of a clubber to be honest ------------------------------------------------------------- DD torpbote line Minekaze - nice, but just ok-ish, very team dependent Fubuki - in progress ------------------------------------------------------------- DD gunbote line Mutsuki - awesome fun! Hatsuharu - in progress

So I've completed the Hosho, and it wasn't pretty. I'll just leave this here. I can tell you that I am not even an ace pilot and ended up in the top 5% on wows-numbers.com. I'm convinced that WG should have set the reset back to tier 6, and not all the way to tier 1, to avoid embarrasing stuff like this. Also, 2 torp Hosho is fun, but way too much fun. Sorry for all new players I've frustrated. I'm off to tier 6 now and won't return :P

Met @BeastOfWar in a match sailing a carrier. "Idiot Europizza."

WG are making themselves impossible to reward with my wallet these days

Started at tier 3 this morning got carried in Dallas and Buddyoni 10/10 would play again

Destroyers seem to be the most weird since 0.8.0. I think most have an identity crises, not knowing what to do in them, even when there is no carriers present. I see them camping behind BB's, sitting just outside of cap not blocking it until it's capped and then sail in, not go for a cap the entire match, roam map borders, Yolo die within 2 minutes (not one but ALL destroyers on a team), refuse to use guns, torp teammates, only smoke up when attacked by a CV after the 3rd attack wave, get spotted by BB's in a DD vs. BB last stand and get deleted by said BB, smoke up in cap full broadside waiting to eat enemy torps (an oldie), etc. I also see carriers attacking BB's with rockets, and then take AP bombers to attack destroyers :x

For me: Tier X matches: Expensive, boring AF, no progression = ship needs to be a lot of fun to be played at all ≠ rest is portqueen Lower tier Matches: Cheaper, less boring, yes progression = ship can be meh and still be played

@CptBarney Europizza:

Yup, for me the exact same reason. At first I was like WHAAAT? Then I was like Wut? And then I was like Why nut? No FreeXPing, just regular play. the only thing that feels uncomfortable now is playing Hosho up to 70k XP while it's in a game0-ruining state, for other low tier players that is.

As of late: As soon as I bought it and equipped it. I only have to play 1 tier X match to be reminded how boring these matches mostly are. I do like the Hindenburg. I rediscovered her recently after she had been sitting unplayed in my port for months.

His problem is that he's not playing Flappy Bird. Being harrassed a whole match by a carrier player who is so bad that he cant kill you but still manages to make it impossible for you to do anything else but dodge and trying to escape detection is just very bad game design and seriously lacking in quality. It shows one of the many levels where the carrier rework still fails flat on its face.

Don't let it break your heart, the Friesland is more then just a helpful hand. People are talking about how she might perform under optimal circumstances, best practices playing with a teammate, but there is more fun to be had. You can read up on my experiences as a solo player in random some posts back to see if her do's and dont''s are for you. I like her, but I'm regularly told I like odd things.

Bragging over 1 shell hit

CV's in 6 vs. 6. Right, fun police is here.