Mad_Dog_Dante

It's a great poor mans PT if I need it, which I hardly use anymore these days except on glass cannons.

Interesting, I personally hardly every heared any DD state such a thing unless it was a DD with cruiser conceilement or asashio players that hurdur can't think beyond the description they read and play the asashio at 1/4th of it's capability. Though WG agrees with them, and thinks game systems need to be catered to the worst players out there, in order to keep everyone invested in the casino minigames game WOWS basically became. So those conversations are the result of WG breeding and feeding lack of quality in their own game: they don't expect anything from players, hence we get nothing much out of most of them. Most new systems are automated these days, typical of any willy nilly AFK loot game for mobile out there. ^^

I have no personal issue with carriers in my DD's anymore thanks to the massive nerfs to rocketplanes. DD's have 'learned' a little, WG massively hammernerfed their abomination because naval game rocketplanes is one of the worst badly thought out game systems they ever created. I also pointed at your arguments, not your understanding of the game, be cool. Again, rounds without carriers are perfectly fine. This tells us that there is no need for an additional class to pick up a hard counter anti DD role on top of what we have. Soft counter will do just fine. Your example, even if it's a cherry picked Khaba that can outrun slow IJN CV torps, is a perfectly fine example gameplay situation that shows what can should happen if a carrier doesn't stay with his team, provided that carrier isn't a hard counter to DD's. If that carrier is out there alone away from the protection of his fleet, he made a positional mistake earlier on (while being the best scout in the game actually) and should have a really hard time fighting a DD that got into torp or gun range. It's not like a carrier witout rockets is defenseless against DD's or lacks the tools to see it coming. They just have to gitgud and watch their positioning. There is no 'entitlement' in the 'DD community' to not counter DD's, what? Where is this community? Or are you cherry picking conversations with very bad asashio players? At least we agree rocket planes are a bad addition to the game, that is basically the hard counter we are talking about here. TL;DR: To start repairing this ratchet game I would remove rocket planes and add their reserves to bombers and torpedoes because rockets are not only killing DD's but are the nobbiest tool to kill off late game low HP BB's and cruisers, which is one of the issues making the game horribly pathetic at times. And if needed improve the bomb and torp RNG vs. DD's a little, and only vs. DD, to not mess their balance up against other classes. Because computer programmers can do that.

Yeah, it stupifies me as well. Maybe their spreadsheet is confirming a stronghold bias over there. I lost interest to be honest. The core play is what keeps me entertained, sneaky dd, harassing cruiser or blapping bb. Everything else they do is shait. After 5 years I have concluded this company is just a mobile game style lootbox addict with little to no knowledge and talent towards pvp gameplay.

Id even say most changes in the past two years didnt have a better gameplay experience in mind

All I have to do is point to matches without carriers. They are absolutely fine. There is no need for carriers to be a hard counter on top of that and be able to hunt spot and kill DDs alone without any help of their team (hard counter). It is overkill, and the reason why WG has been struggeling with this bizarre situation for 2 years straight. If they replaced the rocket reserves with torpedo and bomber reserves carriers would be fine and still be a soft counter to DDs. Its a team game after all isnt it. Something carriers seem to be the exception to for some obscure reason, and looking at your arguments, something you seem to forget a bit as well.

In ranked the solution is that both BB's and CA's actively support their DD's instead of backline sniping whatever pops up while waiting to see which DD's survive a DD brawl ion the middle.

And the inflation continues...

Since people do what you do.

I heared secondairy builds on cvs are they way to go

There is absolutely no need for carriers to be a hard counter to DDs (rockets), just a soft one is enough (spotting).

Indeed. The unicum in in my previous post that lost the match but killing 1 DD and 5 (!) other ships (BB and CA) used tier 8 US rockets on EVERYTHING because it was the most effective option. An abomination in pvp game design if I ever saw one.

I bought the Blyskawyka and the Atlanta for real money, both heavily affected by 'global changes' <- which means WG deliberately did not change the ship to align its function with the global change, which means they actively nerfed it. The carrier rework completely destroyed the Atlanta's role as a fleet AA ship. Go cry me a river.

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Logged in just now regularly. Seems to be Steam related.

And this one will be closed, as discussion about moderation is not allowed here. take it up in a PM.

I can't comment on the Superships, but they sound like they come straight out of Las Vegas. Don't make me laugh hysterically. They should have never been usefull to these targets in the first place and are abused for everything else if hitting something with bombs or torps gets too hard. Rocket planes are easily the stupidest addition to this game ever. A few days ago I was in a battle with a unicum in a tier 8 carrier that wielded rocket planes against everything it encountered, DD's (missed alot) cruisers and BB's. He only used torpedoes and bombers intermittently because he had to wait for his rocket squads to come back to full strength every now and then. He had 6 kills. Amost all of them rocket planes killing off low HP targets among which 1 DD, rest was cruisers and battleships, with ROCKETS. Can't miss low hanging fruit, 1 sq gets through every time = assured kill. Still not enough to have him win the match, he lost. Still not enough to have him top the scoreboard, he was 3rd on his losing team. Absolutely effen backward design. Carriers should have never become DD's nemesis in the first place, cruisers and DD's were already way ahead. There was no need for it.

De-rail. Deeeee-Raaaaail.

Haida is very nice, worth having it next to cossack. I do struggle to level up a captain for her even if she is shared with the Vampire 2, I simply don't play that nation enough.

Pretty hard as it's not lootbox related coding.

Zoup lost nothing except his CC status, he isnt 'cancelled', hold the drama

Not using any of the new 'more diversity skills'. Same builds just more expensive. I simply can't beleive how bad that design team is at reaching their set gameplay goals. Guess they used to work for slotmachine manufacturers previously?

Nice suggestions.

Which is weird.

Met @GeneralDragon CV rocket spamming in an Enterprise in a tier 6 match. Wasn't ENUF.