Shaka_D

I know that last night in a couple of my games I targeted an enemy vessel multiple times and saw the shots fall way short as if I had aimed incorrectly. I was definitely aiming correctly but saw them land so short it beggared belief. I put it down to some sort of lag but who knows.

Damn, and here I was thinking all the dutch people had immigrated to South Africa a couple of hundred years ago (seemed like it when I was growing up in SA), so it's good to hear there are still actual dutch people living in the netherlands.. Go on WG, give em a ship or two, variety is the spice of life.

The first thing to do OP is to stop worrying about winning and losing, i.e. don't let it dictate your existence. Play your best, learn, have fun and as you get better the wins will come. Being placed in a hard fight is not always a problem (unless in your Atlanta on the ocean map with no carriers), just take up the challenge and enjoy the game for what it is. And no, I cannot believe I just said any of this!

@ OP: Nice read. I've basically decided that I don't plan to purposefully progress past tier 7 as from tiers 5 to 7 I am happiest and the game is affordable in terms of the terrible ingame economy. WG's deals are always bundled nowadays and it's easy to see they're trying to steer people toward a reliance on premium accounts and ships. I love the game, it looks great and it's all about warships of course, but there are a few things I would like to see improvement on and they're pretty much the same as you mentioned. Even though I've been roasted and torped to death by carriers we at least have a fightback in some strong AA vessels which can make even the most potent carrier player cry, whereas in WoT there is nothing of the sort to counter arty. W0Ws is a slower game, granted, and a loss less frantic than WoT, but the nice thing is we can play both now and then, depending on the pace of gameplay we feel like. It might just be me but one of the reasons I'm really enjoying the game right now too is because I'm not chasing stats and not being judged because of them (for now), so I hope this doesn't change. We still rely on winning because it makes the grind quicker. Hopefully fine-tuning and lots more content will follow, and perhaps a little more fair treatment in terms of premium shop bundlling when compared to other server groups, but ultimately my money is my own, and if I don't like something WG does I'll be more reluctant to part with it.

I agree with you here, and it's not just the community contributors but also other people closely affiliated in some way to WG, and not forgetting many of the mindless drones who go on every word that some community contributors say. It's sad really, because for every reasonable whine there are always people who somehow feel the need to 'counter' any negative sentiment with something positive or who seek to discredit the person raising an objection. In Wot a lot of people who complained were told to 'leave if they don't like it', a rather unreasonable response to people who enjoyed the game but wanted to see improvements. We have to wonder where exactly WG get's all their feedback from, whether a select inhouse user group or perhaps only the supertesters, who may or may not have a bias toward WG or who may feel somehow compelled to be more agreeable than disagreeable. It's a pity WG never reveal how or who their real feedback is received from, if any. True obectivity is seldom seen these days, whether from the the players and / or developers.

Who asked for a senior moderator to insult anyone? I certainly didn't. Secondly, the argument over bundled deals has been going on for a while now, so whether it's sunday or not the EU team have had sufficent time to address us accordingly without their neopolitical crap on 'we've spoken to Minsk' or whatever. When did we ever receive adequate or reasonable feedback other than them deferring the matter to HQ or they've 'taken the matter under advisement'? I don't recall any. To be honest, WG deserve a full bashing on all of this, they truly do, and while I can understand that you supertesters feel some sort of dubious loyalty toward them, I cannot understand why you honestly think that what is a 'dirty' deal toward the EU is fair in any way or justifies any form of defensive stance toward WG. I am sorry, but as WG employees they stand in the firing line, and in many cases it is deserved. I won't kiss someones proverbial butt just because they're a community coordinator or because I'm hoping to gain any favour. Perhaps the younger fanbase would do this, who knows, but one thing is for sure, if they had the notion to at the very least give us adeqaute feedback we'd perhaps understand, but as usual we get nothing but scorn from WG EU in terms of them labelling us whiners, ingrates, etc. The truth of it all is nothing will ever be done so I think I've stated my last on this issue. Already quite a few have purchased it, already they've justified why they 'needed' it and as such WG will happiliy continue with their bundled deals because as long as we continue buying, they'll continue selling, a fair trade off. The fault lies with every individual who buys a package, and I was guilty of this too.

Well, as an active WG employee of sorts could you at least tell us where the hell our community team are??? Because they're certainly not here and they've certainly not given us a respectable answer on this.

Can someone please explain to me why we are still seeing battles where the one team gets multiple tier x's (especially BB's) and the other team gets none? Not just one tier x, but two to three or more at times. These players are often not divisioned so it would be no problem for the MM to distribute these ships across the teams, yet it puts them all in one team. If this was a once off I'd be ok with it, but sailing my atago I've had 4 games like this now within a total of around 10 games and in each case the enemy team had numerous tier x's while our team had zero. My atago was one-shotted in two of the games from around 15km, in one game a chap in a tier x BB one-shotted me and then reloaded and one-shotted a mogami with his next salvo. I can't say I find much fun in that, sailing to within range of him for my own guns, only to be killed with a single salvo in two of the games. No, I wasn't alone. It seems a little OTT that the mm cannot distribute vessels adequately. I realise higher tiers are not as populated yet, but to put so many non-divisioned tier x's on one team and none on the other smells of a grossly inefficient mm.

Scary how many people purchased the fujin package. The longer we support WG bundle deals the more they'll keep doing them. Pity, I guess some folks don't have the self-discipline required, haha. Well done WG, you snared a few more players.

Sorry, I don't have any 'replays'.

I'd be very interested in how you would deem it fair? Fun on this map is extremely dependant on the type / class of ship you're skippering. Some vessels simply have no chance on the map. People may argue that it comes around so infrequently that it doesn't really matter, but on a previous occasion I had the map three games in a row in my Atlanta, and all 3 games had no cv's, meaning any good I could have done was neutralised when my AA became obsolete, and with an 11km range it was hopeless for me.

My atlanta hates this map, especially when there are no cv's to at least use my AA on. My US dd's suffer on this map, in fact any ship with low range is a sitting duck, especially in randoms when any sense of cohesion in a team doesn't exist. I couldn't care less if it's the most 'realistic' of the lot, the fact is it allows for no options in gameplay other than to accept your fate and die graciously, depending on what ship you're in of course. This map is purely a 'space filler' for WG because they don't have too many other maps in rotation.

in that case the cleveland will become the game breaker

Tried and tried over and over as nicely as possible, not much success. A real problem when so many don't speak the same language and couldn't tie their own shoelaces yet.

Yes, I do suspect that braindead morons will rush to buy the ship dazzled by the pretty colours and as long as they do WG will continue with their campaign of bundled deals without the option to buy the single ship. I already decided not to pursue any ship past tier 7 since the game is broken in higher tiers (and too costly to maintain) and as such it reaches stagnation quite quickly because they've not got a lot of variety or content to keep me interested, and when they do offer something interesting it's always with a hefty price tag in a bundled deal. It might be better to quit now before I get as far as I did in WoT. We're not forced to buy anything, but with the extreme slow progress in WoT after all the time they've had and all the staff they apparently have working on it, their offereings are all we have to look forward to. I'm tired of waiting for them to 'eventually' release content, I'm sick of their empty promises and their delays and non-commital agenda.

While I don;t doubt this is true, I fired a single salvo from my New Mex, 3 shells, from a distance of about 10km or so. The spread out like I was firing torps.

In short, not buying another bundled ship deal. [edited] WG.

Yes, at first it wasn't so in WoT, credits were abundant, and then WG's strategy changed to a game driven by the credit economy making it hard to keep a positive balance unless you stay in lower tiers. They even nerfed the income of premium tanks and explained it as some sort of modification to penetration / accuracy mechanics to balance the game. They said they adjusted acuracy to improve it but they failed to mention they improved it for themselves in terms of making it cost us more from missing alot of the time. I see they've done it from the start in WoWS. Credits drIves the game, and you'll notice in WoT how easy it is to gain XP, but harder to pay for all the things you unlock with your XP.

Seriously, you guys can actually aim for a specific place one an enemy ship? Lol, my shots always seem to scatter with the wind, even when aimed. I've got the lead time down quit well to aiming for different ships at different speeds, but aiming at certain places seems like the holy grail of luck to me. I simply fire to hit the ship and let luck play a part in what damage I do.

Oh come on! Seriously? You've really seen no evidence of bad MM in WoWs? What a lie!

So would I, but more than that it'll be a no go for me.

Why do they have to do this in the first place? Why the need to separate sales like this? Who cares where it was first / last / etc. Why not just the same time everywhere? WG really enjoy creating division between the server groups don't they?

in a massive bundle no doubt and not for £8, but rather for a lot more.

I know all about the OP but I get tired of watching a pack of dogs fall into the same BS time and again for no reason. Respond in kind as and when it happens, but making stupid comments when not called for is just as foolish as you claim the OP to be. Perhaps I should have said for you to think for yourself next time, have you not been taught that just because others do something doesn't make it right for you to follow with the same, is this a popularity contest? It's weak-minded and silly. And before you complain again, yours was the first post I saw and responded to, because it represents a growing trend on the forums for people to flock together like braindead sheep. This particular post by the OP was not relating to anything the OP did or said before, so why bring it all up? Is it because you folks have a bone to chew on yourselves? Just becuse of the OP's history (past, or perhaps future) doesn't mean it's right to be nasty does it? So why be snide? Next time walk away and say nothing, if enough people stopped responding to his threads then he'll eventually stop. But naturally you won't take any responsibility for anything will you, another failing of all too many people today, far more convenient to justify our actions as long as the blame doesn't fall on ourselves?

When playing in a cruiser or DD I always feel a lot more courageous when I have friendly BB lurking behind or nearby. The different ship classes need to compliment each other and all require different playstyles, but are extremely interdependent. The sooner players realilse this then perhaps the result will be favourable, but the truth of it all is everyone is far too busy playing a solo game and not using their brain to interpret their individual responsibility to their team and the overall tactical situation. A quick glance at the minimap now and then will give you a great view of the battle, where you should perhaps be helping, what you should be doing. Sadly though everyone guards their ship as if it's made of glass. Forget about the tutorials on the micro technicalities of using your ship, we also need tutorials on the macro tacticalities of battle and the importance of playing as a team. If everyone played for their team and not for their own individual score then perhaps randoms would be extremely exciting. If you're in a BB don't follow ALL the other BB's, look at the minimap and lend your firepower where there is a weak flank. If you're in a cruiser or dd, do likewise and check to see if there is someone you can offer support to. Lemmings often fail their team, but then there's the question of there not being a basic IQ requirement for the game.