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Thing is Mate. That is one Hell of an Effective Spotting Baloon then. And a Dangerous one on Top of that. Because not only is a CV a Spotting Baloon which unlike a DD is not just able to Spot a Small Forward Area for their Fleet. But can Spot the Entire Enemy Teams Formation and Movement. He can also "Motivate" the Enemy Team into Certain disadvantageous movements which a DD Cant. And one of the most Importand Abilities. The CV can Take down Enemy Ships that Break off the Main Fleet and try to get into your Flanks. Even I will usually only get an Average of 60-80k Damage when I am in a T8 CV in a T10 Game. With some Games where I got 2-3 Minotaur/Worcester Cruisers Blocking my Attacks so much that I Drop down to about 40k. But also with some Games where thanks to Enemy Mistakes I can go over 100k Damage. A T8 CV is of course much less Influental in a T10 Match. Than a T10 CV would be. And unlike a T10 CV. Which if he Yoloes and Suicides at the Start. Is basicly a Lost Game. Because the Advantage posed by the CV is so Tremendous for your Team that this Loss is Basicly a Game Deciding Factor. The T8 CVs loss can be Carried if your Team is Good Enough. However. A T8 CV is still extremely Influental if he Plays Good. Much more than a Good T8 BB or Cruiser could ever be in a T10 Match. And something should also be Noted on the Personal Level here. The Above Influence is Still a Pretty Respectable and very Consistently Respectable Result for a T8 in a T10 Match Mate. If I Compare this to T8 BBs for Example. A T8 BB in a T10 Game will often Average around 40-50k. With Bad Matches going as Low as not even having 10k Damage due to Eating a Heavy Citadel pretty Early in the Match and barely getting anywhere. And with Good Games also only going over 100-120k And unlike the CVs. The BB will be very Inconsistent unless the Player Playing it. Is Extremely Skilled and can Deal with it. That Half of the Enemy Team is Basicly Superior to him in every Single Aspect. Moreover. Unlike the CV. The BB has Pretty much NO Supporting Quality Whatsoever.

I cant Agree with that. Now I cant tell how much more or less it happens compared to before. Given that even now it is an effective way to throw off the Aim of the Enemy. I can however assume that it was far worse when the Speed Debuff was not there. But I do still see it happen. And Pls Note. I am Explicitly Talking about the cases where People use this on the Flank. And not on their Teams Border after being Pushed Back. I do think that its not a Good Mechanic in this case. Because it drags out a Game that the Enemy Lost already due to making the last few Players Harder to Kill. But it Generally wont change the Numbers anymore at this Point. But especially on Maps like Ice Islands where one of the Capture Points Center is only about 10km away from the Border. I see it very Often that a BB will go Close to the Border and than use that Border in Active Engagement to Throw off the Enemy Aim, to do a Turn without providing the wide curve they usually need to and also to just Drive into it an Stay Angled without actually getting any further away from the Islands or their Flanking Position. And the thing is. On Maps like Okinawa where the Border contains an Island. I do not see this kind of behavior at all. Because there. If they tried this they would Beach themselves and be a Prime Stationary Target.

1. If you get Deplaned in 8 Minutes you Played extremely Bad. Of course. Assuming its not just you Lying about Matches that never happened. You could Show us the Replay so we can Check what happened. 2. Judging a Players Skill is maybe not Polite. But its not Offensive either. Your the one using that Example in an Argument. So you have to Accept that People will Analyze that example and Judge it accordingly. 3. In the last 2 Months. I had exactly 1 case where the Enemy CV stopped Sending Planes after Half the Match. In 2 cases a CV Suicided by Yoloing so I assume he might have been Deplaned. Remaining over 100 Matches the Enemy CV kept Sending Planes till the End. Very often Half Squads but also sometimes Full Squads. Only in few cases it was just 1 Wing. Which is not Surprising. Because you usually Regenerate 1 Attack Wing (2-4 Aircraft) in about 3 Minutes. So if you got Deplaned on 10 Minutes. You will have 3 Full Attack Wings 2-3 Minutes Later. Also. Your getting Sloppy there. You posted with your Second Account.

You say something? Also. Torpedoes almost as always Splash Citadel and thus only get 10% Repair. 1. BB is less Relevant to the Team. But much Harder to Play. If you make a Mistake you can often Kiss 30-50% of your HP Goodbye. Better than DD for sure. But nowhere close to how Forgiving CV is. 2. Thats your Teams Problem. Not yours. CV is extremely Powerful and Influental in the Game. So a bad CV is much harder to Carry. But a CV needs much less Skill to not need being Carried than a BB.

I.ll Ignore the First Part because I consider it Irrelevant. The Second Part is the more Importand Part. In case you Missed it. (Of course you did cause you also Missed it when I did that) The Point is that it Proves you wrong about the Claim that you cannot Bomb these Ships in Blob etc etc. He Simply Established the Fact that You are Wrong with your Claims :) Nothing more. But also Nothing less ;) And Yeah. 45k Damage on Kremlin in exchange for something like 30Planes = Petty Damage *gg* You should have left it at the First Line Mate. CVs are not that Hard to Play really. They Require some Basic Thinking and some Patience. Pretty much the same as DDs. Just that unlike DDs the CV is much more Forgiving because you can Mess up 5-6 Times with your Planes and unlike the DD your not out of the Match. So in my Eyes. CVs are Currently the Absolutely Easiest Class to Play. Because they are the most Forgiving Class for Mistakes.

Oh Oh. Someone is very Salty. 1. He was Attacking a Blob of 5 Ships most of which were T10. So Losing 2/3 of his Planes to get a Strike off. Is Perfectly Reasonable. Honestly Said. Against a Blob of 5 Higher Tier Ships he should have lost ALL of his Planes if this Game was Balanced in any way. Because if even 5 Freaking Higher Tier Ships cant Stop your Strike then Sorry. But what is AA even Good for. 2. I didnt Notice to be Honest. He seemed to be taking alot of Fire. But then again. I also use Islands for Cover. So do Cruisers and DDs if they can. Using the Map to your Advantage is a Basic Strategy. How much Chances do you think a Worcester has when it would Attack this Blob without an Island to take Cover behind ? 3. Extremely. EXTREMELY Rare. And Irrelevant. Because Overcoming Medium and Long Range AA is your Job as CV. As you See he can do it in a T8 CV against T9 and T10 Ships. 4. Yep. We know. But in this case there is no RNG Involved. He simply Used his Planes Properly to get a Strike in. Using Cover for an Attack is not RNG. Evading Heavy AA is not RNG either. And the Extremely Small RNG from 85%-90% Hitratio for Continues AA would not change this Results. 5. No Offense Mate. But he is Actually Backing up his Words. That is more than I can Claim about Literally every Single of the CV Apologists in this and other Topics. You do Realize that I have done the same Stuff in Kaga and Graf Zeppelin in the other Topic right ??? Are you Guys having such a Short Memory ?? Or are you just Deliberately Forgetting all the times I have already Proven to you that T8 CVs can even Bomb the Strongest T10 AA Ships ???

Ich mag die Eugen. Ist ein sehr Opportunistichis Schiff. Das auch mal BBs in die Zitadelle klatschen kann wenn du Breitseite gezeigt kriegst. Aber Blumentöpfe Gewinnst du in dem Spiel mit Deutschen Schiffen nie. Uch denke manchmal das WG Deutschland hasst wie die Pest. Bei jeder anderen Nation bist du besser bedient.

Gibt es ausser den Schiffen noch andere wege Marken zu Kriegen ? Oder Gibt es Marken nur vom ersten Sieg und durch die Missionen aus den Kisten? Ich hab nur um die 30-40 Schiffe. Die meisten sind zwar entweder über T6 oder Premium. Aber die Marken für die Kisten Kriege Ich damit wohl nicht. Aktuell. Ich habs Grad Ausgerechnet. Ich krieg nur um die 300 Marken lol. Was nen Witz. Brauch Ich mich mit dem Event ja Garnicht befassen.

1. I play mostly German BBs. Pushing the Flank is my Job. 2. Factually Wrong. I actually Tested this. And the lowest Speed I got with my Scharnhorst after leaving it driving the Border for nearly 10 minutes. Was 8-9 Knots. So roughly 1/3 of Max Speed. 3. He is in the Flank of the Enemy Team. So unless he is completely Alone he will have Targets that he can Kill easily. This is not a 1 on 1 Game Mate... 4. Sure. Take out Enemy Team with an Iowa in your Flank... Because thats no Disadvantage at all. Do you even Play BBs???? Do you know what happens when you got an Enemy BB in your Broadside????? 5. I needed not even 1 Minute to Turn around in the Border after Hugging it 10 Minutes. And Yes. I am Growing Tired of this as well. Dont know if your just Clueless or Lying on Purpose. But if we cant even Agree that an Iowa in your Flank is not something that can be Ignored without Fighting at an Severe Disadvantage. Then any Further Discussion is meaningless.

1. Ocean is Still around. Had it 2 Days Ago. Its just Incredible Rare. 2. There are not Enough Islands at all. In case you cant see it on my Screenshot. On Neighbors none of the Islands actually Block my Field of Fire into the Capture Point. The only Islands that would Block Fire for Capture. Is in the Center of the Cap. And its very Small. So aside from most BBs and even some Cruiser not going to be able to hide from my Completely. They would also first need to Rush there while Showing Full Broadside to me. And of course they would also be completely ****** in that Position. Cause once they are there. They can leave there without Eating a Fat Broadside from me. For Ice islands there is at least One Island on their Side which they can Reach without Presenting me Broadside. But again this also means they are Blocking their own Movement Tremendously. And become easy Targets for my Team. Unlike me at the Border. They can only Beach Themselves or Completely Come to a Standstill if they want to Hide from me. Both are not very Favorable Options and Both would mean that Me Borderhugging poses a Huge Advantage to my Team as the Enemy Team if it Ignores me either Shows Broadside to me. Or is Extremely Limited in Movement. 3. Mate no Offense. But I am a BB. On Ice I will be Spotted by that Iowa long before I even Reach the Capture Point. Because my Detection is roughly the same as his. And his Detection Range is Covering the entire Capture Point. The Furthest Range inside that Cap is roughly 12km from him. So even the vast Majority of Cruisers will be Scouted by Him. And even if you assume that he is Alone. Which he clearly wont be as this Game is 12 vs 12. You would have a Choice. Either Deal with him. Which means that you are Forced to Present Broadside to either Him or his Team. Or Have your Movement Extremely Restricted to stay behind the Island. Which he on top can make pretty Hard. Because he can Slide up and Down this Border without ever Showing you Broadside himself. And thus keep changing the angle on which you have to Stay behind that Island. (Which is Impossible for you to Cope with because the Space behind that Island is not big Enough for you to Maneuver anyways.) So Sorry. But no. Your Conclusion is Completely Off. A. No. You cannot Stealth Capture unless your a DD or an Extremely Sneaky Cruiser. Because he is only 12km from the Furthest Point of that Capture Area. B. No. You should NOT Focus the Ships in Front. Because the Iowa is currently the Biggest Threat. It is in your Broadside and Extremely Limiting your own Maneuverability because you have to either Camp behind an Small Island or Show Broadside to either the Iowa or his Team. So the Priority Target is the One Guy in your Flank. Not the 3-5 Guys on the Enemy Front. C. The Fact is. He cannot be Ignored in this Position. He is Posing an Incredible Advantage to his Team by Borderhugging. Your First Post is thus Completely Wrong.

Well Mate. Thing is the DD cant just have this Weapons do precision Strikes all over the Map without putting himself in Danger of Deletion. And Pls Spare me the Realism Part. Aircraft Carriers have not only also Unlimited Ammo. But they also come with instant Aircraft Service and more Importandly they have about twice as many Aircraft as they could Carry. Just to have you know. If this was made Realistic. You would in absolute best case. Use each Aircraft exactly Once. And thats Assuming that unlike DDs you start with all Aircraft Ready for Takeoff. Because by the Time your First Squadron has Fully Landed on your CV again. The Battle is over. Needless to say. You would have maybe 60 Bombers on the Biggest CVs. So if we go by your Logic. You would get 2-3 Squads of DBs and 2-3 Squads of TBs. Total of 4-6 Sorties and then your out. Because your CV will need roughly 1-2 Hours before the Aircraft have landed and he has Refueled and Rearmed the Aircraft. And thats assuming the Aircraft were not Damaged at all.

To begin with thats a Joke tough. Even if you consider the Aircraft as being a CVs HP. The CV has basicly 6-9 Lifes. The DD only gets 1....

Not Planning to Spend Money on this one :) I will just take the T5 DD as the Directives seem to be easy enough. And then See if I get any Extra Drops from the Crates. I am not Playing much currebtly either. So I hope I get all my Ships Won in the Event. If WG wants an easy take at my Wallet they just need to give us the Azur Lane Skins and Commanders they already got in WoWs Blitz. Unlike the Azur Lane Skins in the Game. These at least actually look like Azur Lane Skins. And not like some Rainbow Flower Paintjobs lol... H44 with 50cm Main Battery Gun would make me Open the Wallet as well of course. But right now. The next likely event at which I might spend more than the usual Premium Account Money. Will likely be if they Introduce German Dubmarines *gg*

Said this before. If AA Changes warrant a Refund for CVs. Then any Changes that make CVs more Powerful again would Warrant a Refund for all other Ships. Because the CVs ability to Bomb Targets and fly through AA is clearly a Surface Ship Issue.

Actually this is fairly Typical. They did it in the past as well. One time you could even get Coal and Steel for First Win on each Ship :)

Divisioned up with my 2 Clanmates ^^ Cant Complain about the Result I guess ^^ I finally Broke the 200k Mark with something other than a CV. And I got another Good Batch of Ships Won for Coal and Marks.

Easier Question. What is the Intended Purpose of the Map Border. Because I dont think it is meant to Serve a Tool to make yourself Harder to Hit.

2 Reasons. 1. To be Honest. i see this almost every Time especially on Ice Islands. Because on that Map its very easy to Abuse thanks to being very Close to the Cap. 2. I dont Play Clan Battles. So I cannot Comment on that.

Number 1 Roadblock in the House.

Good. Welcome to Ignore. Sorry. But at this Point its Obvious that your just Trolling. And I have no Time to Waste on someone who would consider the Map Border a Tool for Turning on the Spot rather than a Map Border meant to Limit the Map....

Mate no Offense. But are you Really going to Claim that the Intention of the Border is for it to be used as a way of Angling your Ship against the Enemy without increasing or closing the Distance but without losing the option of Maneuvering ? Just Saying. But in that case I will instantly Ignore you as a Troll.

Exploits define the Act of using a Game Mechanic in a Way in which it is not Supposed to be used. Not to be Confused with the act Bug Abuse. Which means using a Faulty Game Mechanic. The Difference is Importand. Because Exploiting a Game Mechanic. Means that the Game Mechanic is working as Intended. You are Simply using it in a Way in which it was not Supposed to be Used. While Bug Abuse means that a Broken or Buggy Game Mechanic gives you an Advantage. So whiile Bug Abuse is most of the time a Bannable Offense. Exploiting a Game Mechanic is often not considered Illegal. (Which is mostly because it cant be Detected by Automatic Systems Reliable as an Automatic System cant tell the Difference between abuse and simple use of the Mechanic. )

It is.

I have a Better Suggestion for you. Fix Exploits. As easy as that.

Aye. But what your trying to lead me too is a Foul Stinking Pool of Muddy Exploiter Excuses. I cant tell if its Bitter. But its Stinking like a Cess Pool.