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Well Mate. Just like you dont want to Play Randoms. Other Players dont want to Play Coop. To them its just not an Enjoyable Experience to Fight against Bots. Just like for you PvE Players its not an Enjoyable Experience to Fight against other Players.

Which is Irrelevant. Because yes. It would Easy in Coop. Thats why the Coop Available Missions have Different Targets. Demanding such Easy Targets to be Available in Coop would not be Equal Handling of PvE and PvP Users but would be Discrimination against PvP Players as they would be Expected to Perform Tasks that are Infinitely more Difficult.

lol no.... Sorry. But Gaede getting 10 Citadels in Random Battle would be Quite Hard even for a Unicum Player. So I highly Doubt any Player which only has Gaede Available would ever Finish that Mission in Randoms. I can tell you for sure. That I would not be able to do this with a Gaede. And I am in the Game for 8 Years Now having several Tech Tree Lines all the Up to Tier 10 etc. Any Player Capable of Doing that would be someone who could instead just easily take one of the Cruisers for the other Nations.

If I remeber right. Art Students Draw Naked People in Order to Understand the Human Bodies Complexion and thus be Capable of Drawing Shapes that the Brain will Identify as Human. The Human Brain is pretty Hardwired on what exact details a Human has. And even with Clothes Covering such Parts the Human Brain will try to Identify these Shapes below the Clothes when looking at a Picture. This is also why Cartoon Characters are usually either Animals (where our Brain is not as Strict) or are Drawn extremely Disformed on Purpose so the Brain Identifies them as an Surreal Picture and therefore Drops the Strict Rules it has for what Looks Human. (Funny enough. This is also why many Female Anime Characters have a Larger Chest. Because well. One of the Contact Points our Brain uses to Identify the Gender of a Person we are looking at. Is the Chest Size. So if a Character does not have Visible Bulges on her Chest. People Tend to Identify the Person Pictures as "Male" ) ^^ So Yes. Your definitively doing hentais :P

Glad your at least Admitting to that One. But I dont see what I should Convince him on. The Games Events Discriminating against New Players is nothing I ever Challenged. But thats Unrelated to the PvE Issue. A PvP Players which doesnt have the Corresponding Ships cant do these Missions either. Nor has he any Easier Time in Finding Alternatives.

Your Quote was only Relevant for the Time Stamp. No further Comment on your Post on its Content was Made dont worry ;) Sorry that you got Pinged on this. But I dislike it when People just Lie Straight into Everyones Face. So I needed to Quote you for the Timestamp that I needed as Evidence. Unfortunately I cant do that without the Forum Sending an Alert to you about it. Fallacy. These XP and Credit Missions are only Easier in Randoms if you are a Skilled Player Capable of Defeating Several Enemy Players in such a Match. Likewise they are however not hard if you constantly get Decent Results in Coop. This Myth comes from People Comparing Single Matches and Equal Results. While Ignoring that not only will you get such Results vastly Easier in Coop Battles but also Ignoring that you can Play Several Coop Matches in the Time of a Single Random Match. Because Yes. You get 2-4 Times of the Exp in a Random Match as you get in a Coop Match for the Same Result. But you can also Play 2-4 Coop Matches in the same Timeframe as that Single Random Match takes. In The End. Its True that you need to Play 200-400 Coop Matches to Grind the Exp you could get in 100 Random Matches. But in terms of Time Spend. 200-400 Coop Matches will actually be Done Faster than the 100 Random Matches. The Question which one Earns you the Exp and Credits Faster mostly being down to the Question of how Good you Perform in each Mode. And also Fallacy. You need to have an "Extensive" Array of Ships regardless of being PvE or PvP to do this Event. This is not an Issue for Coop Players. PvP Players do not get Ships of each Class and Nation Presented to them you know. Just like PvE Players they have to Grind them First and might not have them. Meaning just like you they might not be able to do their Favored Missions. Thats an Issue with you only Having 1 Ship Mate. A PvP Player which only has Gaede cant do any of these Missions either. Nor will a New Player like that Earn 5 Special Achievements in a Single Battle or get 2500 Base Exp... I am only Arguing on the PvE vs PvP Aspect. This Event not being Easy to do for Entirely New Players which are only Grinding their First Line of Ships is Irrelevant to that. Because a PvP Player in the same Position will have just as much Trouble.

Nice Try.... Unfortunately. The Guy which Posted before your Post. And which I talked about. My Post telling you that you didnt even Notice.... And then the First Post of the Guy you now pretend you have Meant..... If you want to Make such Pitiful Attempts at Discrediting me and make False Claims on thins I said or meant. At least make sure that your Statement cant be Proven wrong in 5 minutes by Definitive Facts such as Timestamps which Show that the Guy you Claim that I would be talking about has only Posted AFTER I made the Post where you Claim I would have meant him.......

ALL of the Nation/Ship Locked Missions are part of the Optinal Missions which only give 10k Credits. So you always have the Option to just do a Different Mission Instead. For example the Mission with the Italian Cruiser that this New Player Talked about. You dont need to do that one at all. He for example has a Bismarck, a Tirpitz and a Massachusets. He therefore can easily just go ahead and do the Mission for German and US Battleships instead which is to Farm Secondary Gun Hits. You just said you Only have Gaede right. Well. Your in Luck. Guess what. There also is a Mission that is Simply to do 1 Million Damage on Enemies using German, Japanese, Russian or European DDs. Meaning you can actually Avoid both of the Above Missions entirely and just do that one Instead. Would you have a Specific Mission or Directive where you think that you as a Coop Player might have a Harder Time Completing it than a PvP Players ? If Yes pls Post which Directive. Then I will look through it to Show you which Missions you will easily be able to do in Coop to Complete the Directive without ever Touching PvP for any of them. Another Post not even trying to make any Arguments or Reasoning on Topic. You know why I Downvote your Posts but do not Downvote any of the other two Guys here actively Arguing against me ? Because they Actually try to make Arguments and Reasoning. They have an Opinion that Disagrees with mine. But dont just try to make it look like I am a Fanboy or try to somehow twist words around to claim I said something Different. Instead they try to bring actual Arguments with actual Reasoning to Explain why their Opinion is Different than Mine. Unlike you. Which for 3 Posts Straight now. Has made Completely False Claims on what I Said. And has not made a Single Argument on the Actual Topic. Instead only Talking about my Person..... Welcome to the Ignore List. No use in wasting my Time any further there.

So Basicly you didnt Read it and just Imagined whatever you wanted. 1. Sorry. But as I told the Guy above already. His Problems ARE NOT PvE Player Discrimination.... Do you think PvP Players just get all Nations and Ship Classes for Free or something ???? lol Or Do you Seriously Claim that doing 185k Damage is Easier and Faster in Randoms than it is in Coop ? LOL. 2. Nope. I actually Made Extremely Clear that the Time Needed for this Event is much much less when your doing it Coop. Because 4 out of 5 Missions are much Faster and much Easier in Coop. I Play both. PvP and PvE. So I have the Luxury of just Choosing the Faster way for each. Meaning I can do the One Mission where its Faster in PvP in PvP and do the rest in PvE. But Players who only do PvP will actually need VASTLY MORE TIME to do these Missions than Players only doing PvE. Pls dont try to make these Cheap Attempts at somehow Pretending I said something Different. The only time where you would need Longer in PvE was an Alternative thing I suggested for you which allows you to do the Mission without any effort and have it run on the side instead of actively pursuing it right away as its own Mission. Thats a matter of Effort for People WHICH EXPLICITY DO NOT HAVE MUCH TIME. Because the Method I suggested allows you to Finish the Mission with minimal Daily Time invested as it overlaps the Mission with Future ones instead of Spending the Extra Time of doing the Mission Individually right away. You trying to somehow make this Sound like anyone claimed Coop needs longer for this Event is Dishonest at best..... 3. No its Not. It is EASY AS HELL in Coop. There is Literally no Difficulty for Coop here. And No its Not Faster in PvP either. 95% of all the Missions Required. Are FASTER in Coop than in Randoms. With the 5% which are Faster in PvP being ones you can actually either Avoid Completely or do on the side assuming you dont wanna bother Spending the extra Time in Scenarios. In Total even if you Include these Missions by doing them Purely in Coop not even Scenarios. You would still be Faster in Total than doing them Randoms. 4. lol And why would you do that ? Its nice you get 1k Base Exp by doing alone vs 9 Bots. But its also something you Spend nearly the Full 20 Minutes of Battletime on. Compared to that during Prime Time you do 3-4 Battles in the same Time getting 200-300 Base Exp. Not sure you realize this. But I do these Missions during Primetime. Depending on what I want to have I use a Ship Suited for it. For example. For Damage I will just use some Cruiser and Spam HE from the 2nd Line as Bots almost always Focus the guy closest to them. For Kills I will usually take a DD with Torps and just Yolo and Torp 1-3 Bots or Ram the DD. 1-3 Kills every 3-5 Minutes is way easier than 6-9 Kills in 20 Minutes lol. For Exp I as a PvP Player will usually just go for Randoms because Exp Gain is better. Random takes about 3 times as long but also tends to provide 4 times as much Exp. Meaning you earn Exp somewhat faster in Randoms. Credits I actually often do in Coop unless I am ready to Invest Signals. Because You only earn about 2.5 Times as much Credits in Randoms. So as I get 3-4 Matches in the Same Time I get Credits Earned Faster in Coop. Of course this works only for Events. Because you pay Maintenance for Coop. It might be Half Maintenance. But still Profit Wise you get more in Randoms. (If you can Play that is). Because Profit deducts the Maintenance for each Match mening that in Randoms earning the amount in one Match is more Profitable as you Pay less. While for Events earning Credits is actually faster in Coop because the maintenance is not deducted from Event gains. Sorry. But your just being Dishonest there Mate. If this Event Discriminates against anyone its PvP Players. So your Out of Arguments and thus Revert down to Insults :) Great. And Yes. I downvote it. Because what your doing is Offensive. Your not trying to make an Argument. Your not even trying to Argue or Reason at all. Your either out of Lazyness or out of Hostility not even bothering to Read Properly what I Say. Yet you immediately make Claims (Horribly False Claims) on what I would have Said. Your not just Wasting the Time I spend making the effort to Explain this to you Properly which is very Rude. But your also causing Confusion for others by making Dishonest and False Statements on what Others would have Said or Meant. Heck you didnt even Notice the Guy your pulling into this isnt talking about PvE vs PvP at all but is actually just having the same problems as many new PvP players which is that the Event Requires to have certain Nations on T5-7 or higher. Which is entirely Unrelated to PvE vs PvP..... They are Competing with you for the Damage :) Because the Enemy will do the same and alos sit back and in cover. Because if you feel gluttonous and go forward to have whole team for yourself you.ll just get killed without really getting anything. Meaning your not competing with others for damage but rather become damage that the enemy competes over xD Thing is. Some People are always gluttonous. And then your whole Team sitting in the Rear will Compete for that actual easy Damage ^^

1+2 Thats Irrelevant. Because this same Condition Applies to both PvP and PvE Players. So requiring a Certain Nation Ship Class is not Discrimination against PvE Players. 3. And you think you have the Fortune to Spawn properly in Randoms ? Guess what. In Randoms you wont just have Teammates trying to get the Kill and Damage. But the Enemy will also be a Player which wont want to give that Damage to either of you. Or which (Especially when your a CV or DD) might show you the Middle Finger and just to avoid your Torps/Shells will show Flat Broadside to one your Teammate to avoid them. Thus you getting nothing and your Teammate getting a Kill and Massive Damage out of it. So again. This is not Discrimination against PvE Players. You say 185k Damage in Coop is Hard ? Try getting it in Randoms lol. We are Talking about these Events Discriminating against PvE Players. Not about how hard these Events are for New Players. You might not Realize this. But these Events are Intended as a Passtime for Players in the Game that already have most of the Stuff they Aimed for. Players which already have Several Different Lines Unlocked to Tier 10 with several Thousand Battles. And the Targets are Set based on these Players.

Lately I have been trying to somehow Sort my Port in a Way that I dont need to constantly Search Ships out when I want to use them. The Problem unfortunately is. That while there is a way to Mark Ships as Primary Ships. There is no Way to Mark them for Reserve. Now its easy to Mark my Primary Played Ships because there is a Mark for them. And you can set the Filters so they Limit Selection to Ships which are not Teched out yet. Meaning you can easily get the Ships Sorted you still need to Grind. But after these Two Types the Selection Stops. Because for all the Remaining Ships I only have the Choice to either Grey them out or Hide them completely. And this means that whenever I want to Play one of these Ships for example in Division, Clanbattle or for whatever other Reason. I have to Fish it out from the Pool of other Ships that I am keeping around due to them being Premium or having Perma Camos etc. But which I rarely Play outside of Christmas Events and Such. Now I could in Theory Hide all non Qualified Ships and Mark a Few Ships that I use occassionally as Primary. But then my Primary Setup gets clogged up again with Ships I use maybe once a Week. Thats why it would actually be Nice if there was an Option here to not only Mark Primary Ships. But also Mark Reserve Ships. Which would mean these Ships get Hidden entirely unless you Select a "Show Reserve Ships" Option in the Filters. Because then I could Hide the Ships which I am extremely Unlikely to Play in the next few Months without having to also Hide the Ships which I tend to play too Rarely to put them on the Frontpage but still too often as that I would want to Set the Filters for them each time.

You dont need the italian Cruiser one. Why do it if its hard for you ????? (And actually its Italian OR British Cruiser..... so you dont Forcibly need an Italian Cruiser in the First Place) Just do the Japanese or French Cruiser one for 120 Fires or Torpedo Hits. Which is Super easy in Coop. And lol. The only Missions not Counting in Scenarios are the Kill Missions. For the Obvious Reason that this would be too friggin easy as Scenarios often throw Tons of Lower Tier Bots at you which results in very high Kill Counts. Still Coop Counts. And Coop its much easier to get those Kills than in Random.....

Other Directives are still Locked. But I will likely do the 2nd Directive almost entirely in Coop as well. I will do the Standard EP Mission in Randoms (Because I dont like Scenarios) Because Spot 30 Torps is a Joke you get that easily in a few Coop Missions from Yoloing Bot DDs. 30 Aircraft and 15 Disabled Ribbons also Super easy in Coop by using a DD with some AA and Yolo Yourself. 12 Battles be under the 3 Best of your Team. Is much easier in Coop by using a Damage Farmer. Because Bots will come forward willingly and be Farmed. Unlike Players in Randoms. The Mission for the 180k Standard Exp is the Biggest one. I will do that in Randoms because I hate Coop Scenarios like the Pest. But which one makes not a big Difference. Maybe Minimal Favour for Randoms. The Nation Specific Missions first One I will go for Secondary Hits. Because I.ll just take either a German BB or US BB to Yolo in Coop with my Secondaries Firing in all Directions. (If Directive only needs 5 Missions I am gonna skip this one) Second One I.ll go for the Fire and Torp one. Because Japanese Cruisers are good to put Fires and good for hitting Torps making it super Easy to farm Torp Hits and Fires on Bots. So on 2nd Directive. 4 of the 5 Missions your need to do are much easier in Coop actually. With only one Mission being somewhat easier in Randoms. And only when your a Skilled Player. Dont See how PvE Players are Disadvantaged here in any way. Actually I think they have a Huge Advantage in Fact. Doing these Purely in Random would take far longer. A Few Unicums might choose to do the Challenge Missions instead. Which Require an Outstanding Result in PvP Mission. But I can tell you Honestly. Even for me. Which is Generally Considered a more than Decent Player. The Challenge Missions are a Challenge and just doing it in Coop is way Easier. If your Scared of the 180k Exp Mission dont be. Because if you want to actually just do it in Coop you can do that as well. Just do the 6th Mission I mentioned above in addition. The Secondary Hits Mission for US and German BBs. Then you have the Directive Done and 3rd Directive Unlocked. That way the 180k Exp Mission will still be Counted while your already doing Missions for the 3rd Directive. And as you get Exp on each Single Game all the time. You will do this Mission entirely on the Side over the Next Month without any Pressure at all. Dont want to write all of the Missions out. Each Directive actually has the Majority of Missions being Vastly Easier for Coop Players. And I Confirmed for each Directive just now. That there is enough Missions for Coop Players to Comfortably do the Directive Purely in Coop. I will however Write down all the Phase Building Missions as you cant Replace these by just doing another Mission to Complete the Directive. In 3rd Directive they Seperated this a bit. You need to Earn 5 Million Credits. Thats easy in both Coop and Randoms. And will be done on the Side. You dont even need to bother with this because by the time you did the other Missions this one is just done on the Side. Because Coop Matches the Wins are almost Guaranteed. And even if we assume Each Battle to be a Win for both Players. The Random Player would still need longer for these 5 Matches than the Coop Player needs for the 10 Matches. No matter how you Turn this. The Coop Guy has it Easier here. Other Dockyard Phase Mission is Base Exp. Which would be Hard for Coop Players. Hence Coop Players got an Alternative Option there to just be in the Best 2 of their Team in 15 Matches which again is very easy Damage Farming. I can Guarantee you. I am going to do the Coop one here as well. Because its Guaranteed Faster than earning the Base Exp in Randoms lol. In 4th Directive its easy again. 1.1 Million Damage. Is much easier done in Coop. And 71 Ribbons of either Captured, Assisted or Ship Kills. Also much easier in Coop. These Missions are Both Extremely Easy in Coop. In 5th Directive its Easier for Coop than for Randoms actually..... 10 Battles be in the Best 2 of your Team. Much easier in Coop than Random. And then Either Earn 50k Base Exp. Thats the Randoms Mission. OR Alternative Option. Earn 64 Kills..... Guess what. Again even tough I am a PvP Randoms Player. I am doing this one in Coop. Because 64 Kills in Coop is vastly less Effort than earning 50k Base Exp in Randoms lol..... 6th Directive. Last one. 140k Normal Exp. This one is done on the Side. No need to really look at it. In Coop this means about 70 Battles over a Timeframe of a bit less than 3 Weeks. Even a Bad Palyer usually should be earning 1k Exp each Coop Battle so even then it would 140 Battles and thus less than 10 Coop Battles per Day. Hell you will do that one Automaticly if you just do Daily Missions..... 65 Kills once more A hell of alot Easier in Coop.... No Questions asked there Mate. All in All Mate. I can Tell You. I will do almost the entire Dockyard Event in Coop. The only Missions I wont do in Coop is the Standard Exp Ones (not Base Exp ones there Coop Alternative on Kills etc is easier for me too) because I dont wanna wait for a week to have them Finished. And I dont want to Do Scenarios where I could Finish them Faster. Not sure why you would think that this Event is Bad for PvE Players. You can do this entire Event fairly Easirly without going into PvP even Once. And for 95% of the Missions. PvE is actually the Vastly Faster and Easier Way to do them in the First Place. So if anyone would need to feel Discriminated against here it would be the PvP Guys who have to meet these Targets against Actual Enemy Players which unlike Bots actually try to prevent you from getting Ribbons from them.

The New Armory looks pretty Nice. I like the Design even tough its something I need to get Used to First. Unfortunately I really have to say that Adapting the New Design for the Premium Store wasnt a Good Decision. I constantly have the Feeling its Bugged and Forgot to Load Textures. This Borderless Window Design somehow just doesnt go well with the Design of the Premium Shop and somehow looks Confusing because there is so many small Extra Infos Displayed in each Window which then isnt a Window and thus looks like its Text Packs in the middle of Blue Nowhere.... In the Armory there is still Windows used. Which is why its looking much Better and much more Organized than the current Premium Store.

The Design is Great. But as this Design Lacks the Categories of whats a Challenge from Today or whats a Personally Acquired Mission etc. You might want to Consider to either add back these Categories. Or to Name the Missions more carefully. For Example. My Ägir Mission which is a Personal Mission. Is now simply under "Combat" which says me nothing lol. It would be nice if these could be listed under a "Personal" Tab again :) After all you now Nicely made other Missions into their Own Tabs again. The Daily Mission Chains getting their own Tab is Super Nice because its actually Something I often Check doing and thus its Nice for me to see at a Glance if I am done with something. Same for the Event Missions now having their own Named Tab inside that. Which is Seperate from other Event Missions.

Month later. I actually did the entire First Directive in Coop in a matter of about 3 Hours. Dont see any Discrimination there. In Fact most of the Missions seem to be much Easier to Complete in Coop than in Randoms.

My Suggestion would still be something like this here. CVs will always be a System that is vastly Disconnected from the other Ships. Thats just the Nature of CVs. So the Best way to Balance them would be to Acknowledge they are a Different System and Handle them Differently from the Start.

Mate. That would mean I have to Put in New Filters every Single Time I use a Ship. The whole Reason for my Complaint here is that I would like to use Filters to well. FILTER Ships into a Small enough Sample Size that I can Find Ships WITHOUT Constantly using a Search Function for it. That would be one Way. I Personally would already be Satisfied if I got the Two Flags being Primary and Reserve so I have one Group that is Displayed Left of the Standard Filter Group and one Group that is Displayed Right of the Standard Filter Group.

If you Click on the VIdeo it will Display the Stream Waiting Page. At the Time of this Post it is 33 Hours. However. The Stream is Likely Timed alongside the Asia Server. So whatever Announcement or Offer might be coming with it or after it will likely be a Day later for EU.

Something might be Happening in 43 Hours ^^

Then the one of the Hipper :P Seriously dont always go Splitting hairs xD

Dont worry. Once Submarines are Implemented into Randoms. The DDs will have to Stay further Back anyways. Meaning that all the Radar will become much less useful.

That I would consider highly doubtful. Alaska maintains a Heavy Advantage in Firepower thanks to the Improved Pen Angles. And aside from having Radar which makes it a Horror to Deal with for DDs. It also comes with an Underwater Citadel that makes it about as Hard Penetrate as a German Battleship. Much unlike Ägir which gets no Iceabreaker and whose Turtleback is fairly Thin thus not only making it eat more Full Pens from BBs as it Stops Shells from Overpenetrating. But also resulting in the Citadel being much easier to hit for Enemy Battleships. The Secondaries are by far not capable of changing that. If Ägir wanted to hold so much as a Candle to Alaska it would need get the Short Fuse of Scharnhorst. The Icebreaker of the Hindenburg and the Secondaries of the Odin. And even then it would only Beat the Alaska at Brawling Ranges. Riight now the only Supercruiser that I see as an True Alternative to Alaska would be Siegfried. Which is down to the Extremely Accurate 38cm Guns which Offer it something that the Alaska doesnt have and thus Allow it to Succeed in some Situations where the Alaska isnt the Right Ship for the Job.