Sunleader

Nope. This will still be Concealed in 2 Months. Odin was Sold for over 100 Euro in this Event. So WG wont be adding to the Shop for 70 Euro next Month. After all they dont want to pick a Fight with the Whales. Odin will likely only become Available for Coal, Steel or RP and only after 4-6 Months. So the Average Potatoes wont get their Hands on it for at least another 6-8 Months.

Possible but Unlikely. Its effectively a Weaker Version of Scharnhorst. Even the above mention of being Good against Cruisers is not really true. Because unlike Scharnhorst it doesnt get Shorter Fuse. From Playing Ägir I can tell you. Citadelling Cruisers isnt very commong as most of the time you just Overpen.

Not Surprising. The Average Potatoes dont have Odin Yet. Only Whales and other Invested Players have the Odin right now these tend to not exactly be Noobs at the Game. Odin being Trash wont be Obvious for quite some Time. As it will likely not come out for a while after the Event and then likely be very Expensive in one way or the other. Meaning most of the Odin Playerbase will for quite a While be Above Average Players. Thus Concealing how Crab it is.

Dont like that Guy. But on that one I agree with him. For those who dont Speak German. In German there is a Saying. That the Smarter Guy will Give in. This Quote makes a Statement that I could not Agree more with. "The Smarter Guy Gives in" Is the most Stupid Saying on this Entire Planet. Because it means: World Domination of the Idiots"

Why would I ? :) Just Back out. After all your Claiming that you just Ignoring it and Backing Off would not mean I win right ? :) Of course thats Wrong and when you just walk out it means you Give up. ^^ Between backing down against Lies and Dishonesty or having a Fight. Yes I clearly choose the Fight.

I Simply dislike People who Lie and think they should Hit a Wall whenever they Try. If they Dont they will Never Learn that Lying is Wrong and will Continue to do so in the Future as you Confirm that by Lying he is Winning. If you Walk away from an Argument without Challenging it. Then that Argument has Won the Debate. Thats all there is to it Mate.

Because Ignoring it is Supporting it. To the Observer. If someone walks off Ignoring Arguments from People. It indicates the Person has no way to Argue anymore. Meaning the Liar would be Considered Correct. I am not Gonna Stand for something like this. Sorry

His Statement that he Won most of these Games was a Lie ^^ Nothing half about it ^^ Also. Since I refuse to back off against Lies I would actually ask how I could respond without it creating a Fight xD

WoWsNumbers Offers a Function that Checks Stats per Day. And Allows Detailed View on each Ships Stats for each Day. https://wows-numbers.com/user/snapshot/ships.ajax?accountId=500033399&date=2020-06-17_2020-06-16&type=pvp This Being a Day a bit Ago where I farmed Credits in Jean Bart. Whole Page Link. https://wows-numbers.com/player/500033399,Sunleader/progress/ You can get Single Ship Stats by Clicking on Details below each Days Stats. So that should be no Problem I think. It even Allows to Filter Solo Stats from Div Stats etc. As for the Exact Example. I would not Post it now Anymore. As I instead effectively went roundabout in that case. Making Clear he isnt being Honest without Explicitly Posting his Stats. Thing is. This kind of thing tends to not exactly be taken well either. Because no matter how I flower it up. I effectively have to make Clear the Person is Lying so others look stats up themselves. Which is why I would actually prefer being able to just make a Clean Factual Post where I can Attack Solely the Statement he Made without Directly saying anything about him or his Intentions. Greetz

Sorry for using Empty Quotes. But my Smartphone always Bugs out on these Forums when using Mentions. So lets use a Detailed Example. Or rather the last Case of this which Prompted me to Ask on the Rules for this. Some time Ago. Upon Request by another User I posted Statistics if a CV Solo Session Including the Replays. To Showcase just how much Influence a CV holds. Another User Cut in there. Arguing against this. And proclaiming that he easily gets better Results in his Conqueror. Declaring he easily got 150k Average Damage and 2 Kills per Match. I Checked his Stats. The 150k Average Damage was True. But the Kills were 1.4 instead of 2. And the Winrate was 41% for that Session. I therefore Did what Teob also mentioned above. And Instead of Posting Stats. I asked him how many of these Games he Won. Because I could also easily Increase my Damage. But Farming Damage does not Win Games. Thing is. Unlike Teobs example. He did not Admit here. Instead he Simply Lied. Claiming he Won most of the Games. So. In this Example. If I now Posted a Screenshot of the Sessions Statistics showing his 41% Winrate. And Statet that he did Not Win most of these Games. Of course not calling him Potato or anything. Or making any Comment on his Further Stats that are not related to his Statement. Would that be Alright ? Or would that be a Rule Violation ?

Thing is. If someone is making False Claims on the Effects of his Suggested Strategy. Claiming Yeah I play like this and always Win doing 2 Kills and 150k average Damage. Argumenting against it without clearing up that actually he has 41% Winrate is pretty hard. Reasoning against Shameless Lies is not really easy when your not Allowed to Post Evidence that the Person is Lying. This. As I said. I am in Favor of having Rules on Stat Shaming. Because its not helping when People just use it to Annoy others or insult them. But I want to know where Exactly WG draws the Line on what they Consider Stat Shaming and what they might Accept as a Valid Reason to Post Someones Stats as part of the Argument. Thanks for the Answer :) Since it has happened 3-4 Times already that People just outright Lied into my Face on what they Achieved. And so Far I was always reluctant to Post their Stats to Prove them Wrong. So this Allows me to React to this kind of thing much more Professional by just putting Evidence up against the Statement itself without commenting on the Person behind it. Thus not needing to explain around Corners that the Person is a Liar and making things more Personal than is needed. Greetz Sun.

Well. On a Personal Opinion point of View. I would actually Support Stat Shaming to not be Allowed if its just to be mean about it. So I am very well in Favor of Rules that dont allow Shaming People on their Stats for no Reason beyond Shaming them or annoying them. Or even Discredit their Opinion on something. However. I do think that when someone makes a Clear Claim on his Stats. It should be Allowed to Post these Stats to Show wether or not he said the Truth. Well. I am asking for Clarification on wether its allowed to Post Stats to Prove that a Claim the Person made is Wrong. In a Sense this would put them down. But dont get me wrong. Thats not my Target there. My Target in Posting it. Would only be to Prove that the Person is making a False Claim. In this Case someone Claiming to be doing 150k Average Damage and Winning most of his Games in Conqeueror. When in Truth he has a 41% Winrate with these 150k Average Damage. Which likely means he is sitting in the Rear Line and Hurling HE at Enemy BBs 20km away. Thus doing alot of Superficial Damage which the Enemy BBs just Repair while actually not really doing anything useful to Win the Battle. So the Question is. Am I allowed to call him out on that False Claim he is making.

I disagree. I had 9 Karma. Now I got 2 ^^ As For Suggestions. Hmm. I would Gladly give Karma an Actual Effect. But then they would First need to Fix the abuse. Till then its just venting for People

Well Maybe. Its just that Yosha is Unlucky ^^ Cause we Repeatedly Joined T10 Matches with Yosha in his Swedish DDs as he wanted to Kill Planes. Yet constantly we end up having no CV unless we Force one by taking a CV into Div.

Well. The Fact is there was at least for a Limited Time an Increase in CV Players. This was Noticeable in the Game since you often had alot of CVs each Match. Now however I actually have to Say its become much Rarer again to see CVs again. In T4 CVs are still extremely Popular right now. T6 it has evened out but I still think its above the RTS Counts. . T8 I am not even sure if its not below the RTS Counts by now. And in T10 I am honestly said Convinced I see less CVs than during RTS times now. Now this is of course my Personal Biased Feelings. But given that these same Feeling 3 Months ago Noted that every 2nd Match there was a T8-10 CV in the Game. And in many Games there was even 2 CVs of T8 or higher. I dont think its really that hard to see that CV Numbers have Declined over the last few Months.

Das Beispiel war auch Primär an CVs gerichted. Weil es halt immernoch Leute gibt die Ernsthaft bestreiten das CVs OP Sind.

lol Thats gonna be Hilarious

1. Gut. Damit weiß Ich das du entweder keine Ahnung hast oder nur am Trollen bist. Ich habe jetz schon mehrfach gesagt das dass Problem ist. Das ein MG halt in 9 von 10 Fällen Besser ist. Und oh. Ein MG ist also so Schwer das man das nicht mal einfach im Stehen Feuern kann. Ich weiß nicht. Vielleicht bist du ja derjenige der die ganze Zeit nen bestimmtes bild im Kopf hat und die ganze zeit an ein M2 denkt das man auf Fahrzeugen hat. Denn M249 da du das nicht zu wissen scheinst. Kann man ohne Probleme im stehen benutzen. Da brauchst du nicht Rambo für zu sein. 2. Gut und Jetz weiß Ich auch das du noch dazu nicht Ehrlich bist. Denn falls du das nicht wusstest deine Stats sind Public. Die kann also Jeder nachschauen. Leider ist Stat Shaming nicht Erlaubt in diesem Forum. Ich darf also deine Stats jetzt nicht Posten. Es muss Leider jeder selber in deine Stats Schauen um zu sehen das du leider eben nicht die Meisten deiner Conqueror Matches in den paar Tagen Gewonnen hast. Dann sieht man auch das die 2 Kills pro Match nicht so ganz Richtig sind.... Oder Vieleicht is ja auch deine Vorstellung von "Meisten" einfach etwas anders als meine. In meinem Komischen Kopf dachte Ich immer. Die "Meisten" der Spiele in einem Schiff zu gewinnen heißt das man ne Winrate von mehr als 50% hat. Weiß ja nicht wie du das so Einschätzt. Aber Gut. Ich sehe Schon. Das is wieder so ne Nummer wie mit AirSupplement. Sprich wenn du kein Argument hast denkst du dir einfach was aus. Unabhängig davon ob das so unwichtigen kriterien wie Wahrheit etc entspricht oder nicht. Daran habe Ich kein Interesse. Das einzige was man macht wenn sich auf solche Argumente einlässt ist das man anfängt sich bei den Mods unbeliebt zu machen.... Von daher. Have Fun Digger.

Wie du schon sagst. Das ist 1 Fall von 1000. Und noch dazu ist es ein Fall. Für den du 2 T9 Schlachtschiffe in Division mit nem T8 CV brauchst. Um einen Gegnerischen T8 CV zu Devstriken. Sprich. Dieses Scenario ist nichtmal 3 andere Schiffe gegen 1 CV. Nein es ist 1 CV und 2 andere Schiffe gegen 1 CV. Und die 2 anderen Schiffe könnten ohne CV die Aktion nicht machen. Die Tatsache ist. In 90% der Fälle dir wir Realistich im Spiel haben. Ist der CV Overpowered. Es gbt keine andere Klasse mit der ein Einzelner Spieler so einen Großen Einfluss auf das Match ausüben kann. Damit ein DD den Einfluss Erreicht den ein CV Standardmäßig hat. Muss er der Einzige DD im Team sein. Und das Gegner Team darf weder nen CV noch nen Radar Kreuzer haben. Und selbst dann. Weiß Ich nicht ob dieser DD an den Einfluss des CVs drannkommt.

Ja. Die Fixe Situation im Falle von CVs is die Realität die wir in Matches haben. :) Es Bringt mir nix zu Fragen wer is der Beste Damage Farmer. Oder wer is der Beste für eine der Werft Missionen. Weil das sind Sonderfälle. Die Fixe Situation die Ich im Kopf habe is das wo halt das Spiel auch is. Und das is Random Matches ;)

Das Stimmt aktuell nicht. Träger selbst für ne totale Potato sind immernoch besser als andere Schiffe für diese Potato. Denn DD und Kreuzer sind bei 0 Skill nach 2 Minuten Tod während CV häufig trotzdem noch 20k schaden und spotting macht weil er lange lebt und immer wieder versuchen darf. BB ohne skill lebt was länger macht aber halt auch nix weil es nur Damage Pinata ist. Nur was viele Vergessen. MM is Gespiegelt. Der Gegner kriegt auch nen CV. Und der is auch OP. Und wenn dein CV nen vollbob is. Und der Gegner nur bissl was kann. Ist das nen massiver vorteil. Weswegen Schlechte CV Spieler meistens mit Winrates von 40% und schlimmer rumgurken. Und nein. MG selbst im Haus is Überlegen. Schon allein weil das MG durch türen und wände holzen kann. Die Pistole is nicht ganz so outmatched weil du ne chance hast den Gegner von hinten oder von der seite zu erwischen. Aber in jeder nur ansatzweise fairen situation wird das MG gewinnen. Weil du gegen das MG weder Deckung nutzen kannst noch hoffen kannst das im laufen schwerer zu treffen wärst. Praktisch gesehen hat die Pistole nur eine einzige Realistische chance zu gewinnen. Und das is den MG Schützen zu überaschen und ihn zu erschießen bevor er das Feier eröffnen kann.

The First one is Great German Fleet. This is not even Political so no Problem there. Second One is Written Wrong. But that is likely on Purpose because the name was taken already. So this is likely a Reference to Groß Deutsches Reich. Which would indeed be the Official Name the Nazis Gave to Germany after its Expansion in WW2. Third one is missing the s behind "Deutsche" which also is likely cause the name was taken already. And therefore would also Run Afoul of Naming Rules. Fourth one is as mentioned above. Not a Reference to Nazi Empire itself. But can be seen as a Reference to the Wehrmacht Division that Committed Warcrimes. And Fifth one is Großes Deutsches Reich which is also wrong. It needs to be "Groß Deutsches Reich" but nonetheless can clearly be seen as a Reference to the Nazi Empire again. So Yeah. Its somewhat Impressive these Names never caught anyones attention so far ^^

Thats actually Wrong. The Romans called it "Magna Germania" which is Translated as "Greater Germany" The Nazis actually called it "Großdeutsches Reich" which Translated as "Great German Empire" which was leaning on the "Greater Germanic Empire" which included all Countries with Germanic Heritage. Grossdeutschland was an Unofficial and Informal Term which People used even before WW1 already. It was also used by the German Population during the Nazi Time. To be Precise it was used in the Reference of Reuniting the Germanic Countries again. But this was Unofficial Naming by the People. So in that Regard I am not sure this would Violate the Naming Rules. As its not actually a Reference to an Official Name of the Nazi Empire. But the Name is likely Violating the Naming Rules in a Different Area. The Motorized Infantry Division "Grossdeutschland" was a Wehrmacht Division. Not an SS Division. (Just to Correct this Small Error on the Side) However. The Division Grossdeutschland has been Found to have Committed Racial Motivated Warcrimes in France against African French Soldiers. And According to the Naming Rules. Referencing any Organizations etc that have Committed Crimes against Humanity is Prohibited. Meaning that this Reference to a Wehrmacht Division that has Committed Racial Motivated Warcrimes is very likely against the Naming Rules.

I assume they were given Accounts. Especially cause they had alot of Ships in General. Meanwhile I am waiting for when we actually get them tough. I hoped the Stream would Say something. But nothing has popped up yet.

I would rather have Bigger Battles to be Honest. Like 15 vs 15 or even 20 vs 20