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  1. Sunleader

    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    Always Happy when People take Interest. However this is not Accurate. 1. Actually the Middle and the Rear Third are Equal on the Roon. You can Check that in the Armor Viewer as well. The Reason that A PART OF the Front Third has a Slightly Steeper Angle. This is because of the Ship being Narrowing down there. And the moment the Narrow Nose goes over to the Bigger Center Part the Angle Flattens. This is by the way the case for Both Ships. 2. The Rear and Middle Third are not 30 but 26 Degrees. They dont need Favorable Conditions. The Part of the Front One is 30 Degrees on Roon.
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    Toxicity against carriers

    Well. The thing is. This Counterplay is Generally only Possible if you got a CV helping you. Now dont get me wrong. It is an Dangerous Option. Division a CV with 2 Yamatos. Scout the Enemy CV and have the Yamatos Dev Strike him with their Recon Planes Range. But its also a pretty RNG dependent move.
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    Toxicity against carriers

    Sorry Mate. But thats Rubbish. As someone fairly Proficient in CVs by now. I can assure you. That you cant do anything about me attacking you. There is nothing you can Learn to prevent me from dropping on you. Your best course of action is to run and flail like a peasant chased by the Mongol in the medieval ages. Hoping that the Mongols Horse trips over something and misses you as you throw yourself into the mud praying that you somehow survive. If a CV misses you. Then the reason is because he missed. Not because you evaded. He simply Aimed wrong and thus missed. Happens alot even in higher Tiers. Thats unfortunately what happens when your Ship is so overpowered that you can continue even if you mess up over and over again. A CV is very rarely in Danger. So even if he Sucks he can just keep attacking for almost the entire round. Thanks to that. You have alot of People which never actually learn how to do things properly and thus end up not even having the basics down in higher Tiers. After all. Missing an Attack is not in any way Threatening your own Ship as a CV. You can just Continue like before.
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    Too many CVs

    Welp...
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    Toxicity against carriers

    The Reason is that CVs are absurdly overpowered and absurdly frustrating for everyone else. There is absolutely nothing you can do about them as a Surface Ship. Its basicly like your playing Counterstrike and one Player on each Team is allowed to use an Invisibility Cheat. And well. As a CV you are that Player. So you can Expect everyone to Hate you like the Pest.
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    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    Hindenburg is Plenty Scary already. The 12x20cm Guns with their 6k AP Alpha are pretty Strong. And with 2x4 Torpedoes per side your not a Welcome Guest closeby. Its just not such a Good Brawler as the Roon. The Roon not only has a Pretty decent Secondary Battery that can dish out pretty good on whoever gets too close. It also takes less Damage from Broadside Fire. Roon if your 6km to a Yamato you go Full Broadside. And you mostly get Overpens because the only way to Citadel or Full Pen you. Is to Hit you below the Waterline. The Turtleback which cover the Citadel above the Waterline is too Steep angled to Penetrate. But with Hindenburg the part of the Citadel which is above Waterline is not as Angled. Worse thanks to the Thicker Armor you wont be Overpenned either. So you get an extra Target Area where Citadels and Full Pens happen.
  7. Sunleader

    CV Rework Discussion

    I wish I could claim this wasnt the case. Unfortunately I am not a Liar....
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    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    The Second thing is exactly the Issue. Hindenburg Citadel Turtleback when you Shoot from roughly 6km away. Gives you an Impact Angle of about 32-34 Degrees. And the AutoRicochet Appears only when you have less than 30 Degrees. 0-30 degrees -> auto ricochet 30-45 degrees -> chance to ricochet 45-90 degrees -> ricochet doesn't occur On Roon the Angle is way Steeper. Impact Angle for Shots on it from Close Range is only about 22-24 Degrees. Which is less than 30 Degrees and thus will Automaticly Ricochet So against Roon, as the 40mm cant be Overmatched by anything in the Game, anything that Hits the Turtleback Slope will Ricochet without any Penetration Checks On the Hindenburg however even tough it has 45-60mm. You are not Guaranteed to Ricochet. You have a Chance to Ricochet and then a Normal Penetration Check. And well. Most BBs can actually do that.
  9. Sunleader

    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    It makes a Difference because of the Auto Ricochet Mechanics. On Roon the Angle is Steeper. And on Close Range causes Automatic Ricochet against anything that does not Overmatch it. On Hindenburg however its no longer as Steep. So you just need to have enough Penetration :) Your Screenshots seems to Support that actually. You got 4 Citadels. Which is 2 more Citadels on Hindenburg than on Roon. And the 2 Citadels on Roon seems to have both been Underwater Penetrations of the Citadel. As I said. If you look at the Armor Viewer you see the Roon has a much Steeper angle on its Turtlebacks. And 40mm cant be Overmatched. So it will Automaticly Bounce anything on Close Range. Hindenburg is Thicker. But it does not have the Steep Angle and thus wont Profit from the Automatic Ricochet. I think thats why I tend to get more Citadels with Hindenburg than with the Roon.
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    CV Rework Discussion

    Not that it Changes anything. Because regardless of WG toughts on the matter. CVs are not Balanced and are still an Issue. Thats a Fact. So the Topic will still keep being here on the Frontpage pretty much permanently. Moreover. If the Topic is no longer Sticky it also means that we will see much more New CV Topics soon. We will See if it stays as a not Sticky Topic for Long. As we will see much more new CV Topics if there is no Sticky Thread. As well as lots of CV Talk in Feedback and other Topics clogging up there.
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    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    That would have been my Favored Solution as well. Unfortunately I dont have BBs above the 420mm on my GK so my Ability to actually Test this properly is rather Limited. Because lets face it. With GK you can often Shoot even on US and British Cruisers which are Generally pretty easy to Citadel and wont get Citadels from 6-7km away because the Spread is such ********.... Given that unlike the other guy you seem to be Sincere in that and not just provoking me. I.ll try to get some Replays done on this. I am going to Play it for the Unique Upgrade anyways. So that should not pose a Problem. Sure. Because I think that Hindy is Generally not a Good a Ship and this wasnt just about its Armor being so much easier to Citadel than Roon... I liked the Roon Better. As its clearly the Superior Brawler. But Hindenburg is not such a Bad Ship actually. I like the Firepower of it quite a bit. Thats what I did. And Yes. Hindenburg has Slightly Thicker Armor. But as Stated above. I also saw something else. Which is that the Roons Citadel Turtleback is Angled much more Steeply than the Hindenburgs. Roons Citadel Turtleback will result in most Shells Fired Close Range on it. Just being Auto Ricochet. Because the Angle is less than 30 Degrees. But on Hindenburg the Angle is higher. Its Thicker but its above 30 Degrees Impact Angle so the Auto Ricochet Mechanic does not Apply here. Meaning if you got enough Penetration you will still get into the Citadel Thats Fine. I am mostly about the Difference between Hindenburg and Roon. In Roons I have several Times Brawled with Enemy Ships like Kremlin and Musashi etc and didnt get Citadelled. With Hindenburg however this doesnt seem to work at all.
  12. Sunleader

    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    1. Fact is I did with the Roon and Won. Fact is I did with the Hindenburg and Lost. I dont care for your Opinions on this because I know what actually happened when I tried. So is the Higher Angle on the Roons Citadel Turtleback. Which according to these Game Mechanics means that the Roon can Autobounce even Yamato Shells while the Hindenburg can not. Of course you might still do it. The Underwater Citadel Part is only 20mm and Flat on both Ships. So you can Citadel em with Underwater Shots. But its much Harder to Citadel Roon than Hindenburg. 2. I Joined the Game in 2012 during the Beta. When did you Guys Join if I might Ask ? Not that it Really Matters. Because you could be here since 1999 and it would mean nothing. Because the Game has Changed Tremendously since then. And See Mate. After Realizing that you guys wont Provide any Helpful Information I went ahead and simply Googled. And Strangely enough what I found was that apparently short before the CV Rework. Hindenburg Armor was Nerfed and suddenly got Citadelled pretty Easily. While before that it was actually next to Impossible to Citadel. Take a Guess..... 3. And Yes. Sorry. But if you cant even Read my Question and just come me with the usual L2P Comments. Then with all due Respect. PLEASE DO NOT CARE ANYMORE! Your Answers do not Help anyone. Even less when your too lazy to bother reading the Question. For Heavens Sake. You dont even have the Hindenburg..... So far. All you did was basicly tell me L2P with no usable Information whatsoever. Showing me Screenshots and Replays FROM DIFFERENT SHIPS WHICH PLAY COMPLETELY DIFFERENTLY from the Ship I asked something about.
  13. Sunleader

    Too many CVs

    Get used to it. CV Balancing is Finished. Now on your Knees and Pray to your CV Overlords before they Wipe you off the Game Forever.
  14. Sunleader

    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    No Offense to you. But I am asking you about this happening. I dont give a crab about you believing me or not. You dont believe me ? Fine with me. I.ll simply consider it as you got no Idea and thats all there is to it. I actually said this in my Opening Post. So you being in this Topic means it was there before you posted. But that aside. And Maybe Read what I talked about. ROON. You know the T9 German Cruiser. I could use that thing and go Brawl with a Freaking Yamato without being Citadelled. So why the Hell is Hindenburg suddenly Getting Citadelled so easily ??? My Question was why the Hindenburg is so much easier to Citadel than the Roon was. But why did I even Ask. I should have Expected that I wont get any useful Answers on this here and will just meet the usual L2P rubbish. In the Meantime I went ahead and Checked it myself. And the Answer is rather Simple. 0-30 degrees -> auto ricochet 30-45 degrees -> chance to ricochet 45-90 degrees -> ricochet doesn't occur From the Wiki...... If you Strip off the External Armor on Roon and Hindenburg you notice that Hindenburg Turtleback is Angled around 60 Degree Upwards so Shells Hit it with a bit over 30 Degrees Angle. So its not Autobouncing any Shells. If its Hit by Sufficient Penetration Power its going to be Breached. Roon Citadel however is Angled about 70 Degrees.... So Incoming Shells will meet it at a bit over 20 Degrees which means they get Autobounced. Thats why Roon Citadel is so much better than Hindenburg Citadel...
  15. Sunleader

    Hindenburg Floating Citadel ?

    I think I just Explained that I got Citadelled from like 6km away. Do you guys actually ever Read what I am saying ?
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