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So, i sadly made the mistake to buy the Scharnhorst, wich turned out to be the most underpowered piece of junk ship that ever made it into the game. It is supposed to hunt cruisers, but every cruiser so far utterly raped it without me even being able to pen the enemy properly. The guns are weak and inaccurate, they do laughable damage and the ship burns like a stack of matches. Its even hopeless against Tier 5 BB as you cannot pen them but they shoot through you like butter. Every CA laughs at the 2k dmg per salvo he gets while in the same time he rapes you for 10k dmg. Im getting wet eyes if i see a Scharnhorst in my Kirov as its easy 60k dmg done without having to fear to take any serious damage in return. So my question is, is there a way to give it back and buy an actual useful ship instead or am i stuck with this piece of crap now ?

Maybe i should have put it that way, yes. Thou i think of myself as not being a complete potato and that im able to understand the concept of a Battlecruiser. Yet, if i play the ship in its intended role my personal observation was that it performs badly, as it can neither take on a full born BB since it simply lacks the punch, nor can it really take on a halfway skilled CA captain as you just get burned to cinders while you do no significant damage at all. So far the only way i could get this ship work was as a sneaky sniper ship, suprising enemies from behind cover and then relocating quickyl usings its speed. Out in the open the open or in situations where i would be confident in any other Tier 7 ship the Scharnhorst simply fails on me. Maybe i just expected too much, who knows, but the claimed playstyle and effectivity in said playstyle is just simply not there.

Guys, its really nice that some people try to help, but the thing is i watched plenty of youtube reviews, vids and read a lot of oppinions about the Scharnhorst, thus encouraging me that its actually a fun ship to play. My personal experience is that it is way too weak and too situational dependent to perfom in a way that makes the game enjoyable to me. Im on the brink of smashing my keyboard against my screen whenever i land a full salvo on an enemy ship and only do 2k dmg, where i know if i would have hit the same with Nagato that enemy would have been on the bottom of the seafloor. Sure it can perform good, but im simply dissapointed that most reviews and such apparently give a very wrong view about this ship, as everyone claims it to be super good but in fact its only super good in a few select situations, int he majority of the games you are just a punching back for anything T6 and above. Its a nice ship, has its traits (colorado was another example of a frustratiung ship since it was so slow), but its not what i was expecting from all the hype that surrounded it. Yes i might perform the same as my other T7 BB's, but i would say thats only luck, becasue it was certainly not the ships performance that made me perform good. Only games i acieved more than 50k dmg was hiding behind islands and sniping ships the entire round until i get surrounded and then maybe put a torp salvo into someone. If i actually try to play it in an active agressive role the ship simply fails on me since my enemies outperform my ship by magnitudes.

Wasnt expecting that, got the Kutuzov for that already. I expected something that can at least deal with ships its own tier.

Königsberg didnt outwit me. He was at 8km, just sailing away from me in a straight line. Didnt even bother to evade as he realised quickly that i cant pen him or just do no dmg at all. He just sailed infront of me spamming HE at me. Wouldnt have happened with any other BB as they shoo right through it no matter how its angled.

Guess what, i watched those, thats why i bought this ship. But as from all WG financed youtube reviewers they select the best lucky games and show those only. The majority of the games where the Scharnhorst gets utterly destroyed by everything doesnt make it into the videos, would be bad marketing .. Just not came from a game where a Königsberg completely destroyed me becasue the guns where unable to pen him. 51 hits on Königsberg, 27k dmg done .. Out of 51 hits i got 11 bounces and 3 non-penetrations.

Another kid that comments before he looks up anything .. Im not a potato player (thou not a stetsped DD player either), i know how to play ships. But when a Cleveland sails full broadside to you not even 8km away, you shoot and out of 9 shells you lad 3 pens, 2 overpens and 2 bounces and in the progress you do around 3600 dmg while the Cleveland lads 4k dmg and two fires with every salvo you ask yourself what you are doing there .. Needless to say i lost to the Cleveland becasue he turned away slightly and i was unable to deal any significant damage to him since everything was bounceing or doing pathetic dmg. He just kept spamming me with HE and in the end he killed me from full HP and i dealt 12k dmg to him.

Already regret buying this Ship. Scharnhorst is overwhelmingly weak Cant reliably penetrate cruisers, cant even remotely scratch other battleships and just get utterly raped by HE spamming cruisers. Tier 5 cruisers have easy game with this thing. After the first 3 i sank with my Kirov i decided that its probably just bad players who dont know how to counter cruisers, but no, the ship is so bad CANT counter cruisers. You can just happily sail up to it spamming HE and torpings its [edited]away or just stay at range and spam HE, sharn wont even be able to scratch you if you are somewhat angled. Guns bounce off tier 5 ships like there is no tomorrow. Wish i could give it back and get Atago instead.

BB's need more incense to get closer. Making the secondary guns actually usefull would be a great way to get BB's closer. I got my North Carolina skilled and upgraded to Secondaries. At 7.6km 12 guns per side open fire with quite nice accuracy, but they do no dmg at all. I had games with over 250 hits from secondarie guns and they did like 10k dmg. I know its only 127mm guns, but the Atlanta has the same, and there they seem to do a ton more dmg, also on a much higher range. 10x127mm shooting at you every 5 seconds should be devastating to anything but another BB at close range. My initial thought was then when you skill full Secs you can keep all the noob kamikaze DD's that just rush you to torp you and then die too away, but you can hammer a DD with 127mm HE hits like there is no tomorrow and it doesnt even really do any dmg. I still like to go in close and personal with my BB's as it really does scare away some players when secondaries open up at you at 7.6km range already, espceially DD's with low torp range mostly think twice to get even closer, but as soon as they get hit a couple of times and realize that its not really substantial dmg they keep going. With useful secondaries a lot more players would move in close since you would have proper defense.

Too weak ? I got all settings on max and just set this AA on my machine with a GTX 680 and i got 40-50 fps all the way. How is the 960 too weak ?

For me the FPS even went up :o

So, i decided to quit ranked battles as i see absolutely no reason to ply them anymore. I just ragequit multiple times every day because its just simply so extremely furstrating to play. You reach Rank 7, the next day you drop back to 10. You reach Rank 8 again, you drop back to 11, and so on. I somehow cant get past Rank 10 as i feel is is impossible to contrubute to the team in a meaningfull manner without playing Destroyers. 4-5 DD per team make it pretty much impossible to play any other class, and since im not a fan of DD gameplay i decided that Rank 10 and no further. I have never ever had such an inbalanced and frustrating gaming experience in my 20 years of gaming, ever. How about you guys ? Is anyone actually having fun playing Ranked ? (Bonus if not playing DD's)

After Rank 10 BB's are useless anyway becasue of 5 DD per team spam

I probably would be near -78190 then already ..

Im not sure if its very realistic for that to happen in a combat situation. My suggestion would be that oyu have something called "manpower". You can choose to let your crew work on fire ex., plugging flooding or man secondaries and AA. So basically you could make them extinguis fires faster, you woundt have AA guns manned thou and so on.

At least we have 12 .. I dropped from 7 to 12 and cant get any higher anymore. Its imposible. I win one and lose 3. Would be down to 30 at this rate already

I don't understand why the MM isn't compiling teams with more BBs then ? There are like 8-12 BB's in the waiting line, yet you spend two minutes till you get a game and boom its 2 BB and 4 DD per team again. I have the feeling that MM is limiting BB's to 2 per team, and only very rarely puts in more than 2 when waiting times get too long.

I posted that while the game was loading. 17:46. That pretty much primetime where most players are online. When is the right time then ? Midnight ? Next battle 3 Battles after that where 4 DD per team, i quit after that since it was impossible to play properly.

Well, managed to get up to Rank 8 again, thought myself i play some ranked, blam, rank 10 again .. Its just useless, if you are no DD then you can kinda go fck yourself in ranked. Only way to leve lup is ninjacap and then run away in endgame and hope for some torp hits.

Ranked in a nutshell ..

Thats why i completely raped everything with Kirov. But aside from that, its pretty much BB BB CA DD DD DD DD in every team i get into in second.

So whats up with all the people in ranked reporting everyone like crazy ? Im getting banned every single day now already becasue of complaints. Nearly every game im in there is an idiot who rushes the enemy in his DD, dies instantly and then just writes in chat "everyone reported no support mimimi". Also those "omg Colorado nub why you so far back report !!!!1!" kids who just dont get that Colorado only goes 20 knots and simply cant be there quicker from the other side of the map are driving me crazy. Just got banned again, and in combination with the extremly fruststrating fact that you can only progress in ranked if you play DD and every other class is simply just a burdern to the team its pretty much one of the worst gaming experiences i've had so far.

Never claimed i do very well in DD's, only claimed that there is a broken game mechanic that can be badly exploited and is highly unbalanced. Also im not allowed to post anything on press accounts. Anyways. I see that this is fruitless. People who dont understand the issue come up with fubar arguments about things that have nothing to do with the issue as they clearly dont understand the essecene of a game design flaw.

Dude what do you even know ? I have access to a press account with everything unlocked as i was writing about the game for a publication. I played pretty much all ships and found a lot of things that are broken, but nothing as broken as this. But keep talking around the issue without even trying to understand it. Way to go.

Oh i understand it very well, thats part of my job to understand such things. Thats why im pointing out that they are working poorly. Anyways. I tried it, thanks, found it broken and abusive, stopped playing it again, thats why i went for IJN DD line with this account. It is VERY easy to constantly shell a BB at 10km with any DD and reliably hit it. Also you will get 2-3 fires every 20-30 seconds of doing so. Absolutely no problem there. Any BB goes down in less than 4 minutes.