MassiveDYT

MassiveD, on 28 July 2015 - 02:24 PM, said: Let's just be clear from the beginning, the player did nothing wrong, the problem is that the game allowed him or her to do it in the first place. <------- Like literally at the top of the original post Window licking, not even once

Epeen IQ contests with people defending border scumming is like trying to educate WoT artillery about the hazards of water Epic self burn there mate, keep it up bwahahaha

Let's just say that this quote: MassiveD, on 28 July 2015 - 02:57 PM, said: It's already well established that supertesters are the loudest advertisers of this pathetic display, so myeah *cough* Holds equal truth to this one:

Ah yes, just git gud is it?

In a fast ship its undenyingly advantageus to rudder shift while border sliding, in order to dodge shells, especialy slower moving ones, like pensa vs pensa. We have to take into consideration that the "mechanic" has been around for long enough, which evolved a part of the community whom are actually eerily adept in using it. And those are the people who will dodge the shell, not the noobs trying to imitate what they saw in another game and getting blown while doing it, being too predictable and such.

It effects classes differently, thus making it unfair that's one thing. Secondly it's the way that it's used, especially possibilities to in fact abuse, EG : A situation where there are only 2 ships left on the field, and they are cruisers. Something fast but fragile, like Pensacolas. 1 Pensacola is 50% hp left, the other is 100% hp left. The healthier one obviously want's to kill the wounded one, and win the game. The wounded one obviously does't want to be killed, and runs for the border. And that is the ultimate equalizer that should not be, if you charge the wounded glitching Pensacola, especially if he's good with the ship and has done this before, you risk of getting seriously wounded, possibly killed, because it gives the enemy pensacola a (let's call it) strategical advantage that it wouldn't have otherwise. (the border is closer to her, shes on the run, she doesnt care if its a draw as long as its not a loss) You do care tho, your ship is healthier and you want to win. What should you do in that situation? Not charge? Accept the draw? You wont kill her if shes sliding, shes in a pensacola, fast moving, slow shells, + aim discrepancies when somebody is at the border, puts the healthier ship in a severe disadvantage. And therefor its toxic

Trying to draw by running and hiding - sure, by sliding up the border, making them harder to target / hiding their broadside to the point where it's almost considered as damage shield especially versus new players - fair? How could it possibly be fair

In the way that instead of accepting defeat, players choose to be petty instead. And are rewarded for doing it. Something like this in the real world would be like: You are working in the office, and you know that your boss is coming across the room to fire you, but instead of accepting the fact you just slide up the wall and hide in the vents.

In my opinion *sighs deeply knowing what's coming* Warthunder kinda got it right. IF you move out of the border, they just put you about 100 meters away from the border and facing in the opposite side of it. It doesn't make you get stuck or anything, nor it interrupts with your play, it's just like woops I moved out, oh well back to the battlefield

Nice one, kudos for remembering so much details of that match. I do agree with most of it, but I have to disagree on something particular. And I like to start the argument by saying that the best games I ever had in WoWs were butt clinchingly close, and were decided by mere seconds, just a game this morning I had was decided 1 second before the draw and it was extreme, thrilling, exciting, win or loss that was a GOOD, FAIR, GAME. This game was not good, nor was it fair. It was sad, and disappointing. We had a good team. Were there a bunch of beginners ? Yes there were, but they were trying, they were giving their absolute all to win the game. We can argue about this all day, but if Shokaku captain didn't have the option to slide, our guys would have nailed him, as they well damn deserved to. Confusing beginners and robbing them of their hard earned victory is just plain wrong. And petty. It's just as petty as artillery rushing towards water to drown itself in WOT, denying people of their EXP and money, but it's 10 times worse in this case, because it also robbed us of our victory.

Meh part of the problem / part of the solution

If you despise border glitchers as much as I do, then why can't you just let me do the thing that I'm passionate about? Why you have to disrespect Q.Q

I'll go back to my home planet

I am, sort of If I wasn't I would have given up ages ago, but I won't until that window-licking mechanic is gone for good, that is a promise ^.~ !

Spent about a minute wiggling myself out of the beach, and then there was no time to cap for only one ship

Oh yes, because ESSEX is the epitome of turning and manoeuvring in close spaces As I said, leave it to supertesters to blame everything in order to protect their precious stat-pading glitch I was there in the first place to try and cap after killing the bb's, and in a scenario of either get beached or eat a full spread of torps , I'm sorry but I'll choose the beach.

Lol I am literally the closest to the cap, what on earth are you talking about. And I was dodging bombers myself and got beached at one point , therefor it took me a lot of time to wiggle myself out which left me no time to go and cap anymore

Nope, as I mentioned for 5 times already, there was no time to cap, I was closest to the cap after killing bb's defending the cap while everybody else was defending our own cap. I mean I have a mod that clearly shows where the enemy ships were sunk, just do 2+2 please and you will clearly see the picture. Enemy team was incredibly aggressive, and even we were on defence for the entirity of the game.

Ah yes, we can always count on supertesters to point out how everybody else is wrong except for the glitchers, god forbid the glitch gets removed and supertesters stats plummet immediately, SPOOKY!

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/22013-border-humping-poll/

He slid the entire western border of the map until he got there

It's already well established that supertesters are the loudest advertisers of this pathetic display, so myeah *cough*

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You can be in denial as much as you want, hard evidence beats all of that. As I explained the team was furiously fighting the entire game , enemy bb's were protecting and holding their cap, we couldnt cap untill they were dead, and then we were left with 3 minutes time. Facts are facts, if not for border glitching - that was an easy game for us to win, but then it wasn't. But I guess all 7 of us noobs just need to learn how to shoot better, especially that guy with stats that double yours