Han_Sh0t_First

Right - I knew the stats, I read the reviews and I was well aware what I was heading into, but I bit the bullet as I have some weird fetisch for an 'underdog' and apparently have some serious self-loathing I have to deal with. And boy oh boy did the Z-44 deliver in spades - Trips back to port that is. For 60€ / 228.000 Coal you get the pleasure of sailing the seven seas in what I can only describe as hell on earth. Sure (!), her torpedo reload is super duper - And I can live with the non-existent alfa-strike on the torpedos (I own the Halland). But thats it, that is ALL she is - She might aswell NOT be equipped with guns, because the ones she have are..... Well, let us just say you stand precisely a snowballs chance in hell to survive an encounter with ANYTHING. Whomever tested this must have been high on crack cocain when he/she checked it off as 'Ready for release' and appraised it as 60€ / 228.000 coal. WG, at least give her Hydro - I mean, really, read LWM review - See Notser and Toptier review on Youtube. This boat cannot be recommended, at all. For anyone thinking about it, just forget about the Z-44 (In it's current state at least) and save your cash / coal.

Han_Sh0t_First server: EU Answer: 152 mm

Bought 20 boxes. Got Albert, flags, free XP and a huge amount of coal.

While I have to admit that I *DO* see some sense in better 'dispersion' the more you shoot at a target (We adjust aiming after each salvo in the Navy) - It really have no place in this game. Or at least it should not carry over to the next target (New adjustment needed).

To be fair, the Siegfried is pretty 'Meh....' after the captain rework. I had loads of fun in her pre-rework. Is she worth the RB points now? Nope (Not the slightest) - Grind Petro instead.

*Looks at Thunderer owners* *Grabs popcorn*

I am still trying to brawl in my Kurfurst - Secondary Specced. Yah, it may leave me in the dust on the scoreboard, but at least I am having fun for 10 minutes (If that), dying in a blaze of glory, instead of sitting 25km away with a Deadeye build, bored to death. As for cruisers. I simply given up - I used to looooooove playing my Siegfried, again secondary specced, but these days you might aswell run with a lighthouse build and spam BB from 25 km away. It's weird times.

Yah, a +5% MB and maybe +10% SB would be great. Reversed of course. Next step, breaking into WG HQ and leave note at desk 😆

Well the way I see it, it is an easy way to fix it. Brawlers will get better secondary accuracy along with main battery. Snipers can opt. out of Concealment Expert and get another 4 points to play around with. It's a win / win in my book. Plus if they did that you could, as a brawler, choose between accuracy (Dead Eye) or reload speed (Close Quarters Combat) as most builds, brawler wise, still have to include Fire Prevention Expert and/or Concealment Expert. Just my 2 cents.

They should reverse Deadeye. Give BB +10% main battery and secondary dispersion buff if inside detection range.

I love the PE. Sure in Comp I will bring my Smaaland / Petro / Yawn-This-Is-The-Meta-Boat. But when I want to have FUN, the PE is my weapon of choice. Just remember to take it easy the first 5 minutes, do some spotting and support your DD comrades - At that point red team is starting to spread out and you can quickly find the 'sheep' seperated from the flock and it's game over for him. People sometimes forget this is a GAME. Chill a little, smile and have fun.

I will give the rapid fire a twirl this evening mate. Have a test account, so can make a macro (For test purposes!) that just spams left click every 0.2s until deactivated. Actually, if this holds true I will probably run it with different intervals (0.2, 0.5, 0.8, 1.0s) and see if that yields any difference. I am sure there is a sweet spot. Vermonth, 1km away - 5 runs each.

I run Fearless Brawler + Main Battery + AA Spec. I thought I was going out of my mind when playing, as it seemed that Salvo firing was WAY more effective (More hits on targets) when engaging other DD players (Which makes sense, as those are usually quick sub 30 second fights). 20% more rounds? Damn...

I started staying away from caps myself, when playing DD. Caps are the first thing a CV will fly to, in order to spot a DD - And from there things start to go downhill. Does not help that 99.9% of the BB players never move, which makes the cruiser stay back... Which leaves the DD without any support. What I, and alot of other DD players, are now doing is flanking. Maintain spotting the enemy and throw torps into the camping BB / Cruisers - Hopefully forcing them into giving broadside to own BB, or eating a few torps. Cap zone is suicide - So many things working against you.

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/144419-z-44-are-you-kidding-me-do-not-buy/

I been playing this game since BETA - On and Off (Mostly on) and always in randoms. I am 38 years old and been in the Navy for 20 years, currently as a Petty Officer 1st Class. Married and 2 children - So yes, future Clan would have to expect me to have life outside of the game. Time have come for me to become alot more social, and therefore looking for a clan that actually uses the ingame chat and Discord, runs DIVISIONS on a regular basis and if you also do CB I am open for dipping my toes in that part of the game. No idea about my WR rating - When you played the game for as long as I have the statistics goes up and down, but I Do see myself as an above average player. I have no main class, i play it all.

I would like to join the lottery. Merry Christmas sailors and admiral 07

Woah hold your horses. Like you say yourself, I did it well knowing - I am merely warning other people about purchasing it. I am luckily in a situation where I have a good income, so have no problems blowing off some cash for a ship. Yes, there are numerous Youtube reviews of the ship, but if anyone would come to the forums there were not really anything said about it. Just warning anyone against using hard earned coal or real money, and expecting a Benham 2.0 - They will be sorely disappointed.

I would take Neustrashimy in a heartbeat over any other Tier IX DD there is. The Specialized Repair team alone is worth it. Then you add in AMAZING concealment + 10Km torps (On a russian!) and her railgun Guns.... The ONLY con is her insane coal price, if you have that coal I would not think twice about buying her.

Hey, if you can make it work and are happy - that is great. Me? If I wanted to torpedo spam I would grind the Halland and roll up with my lightning fast torpedos with 1 min 15 sec torp. reload. + Better concealment + God tier AA + Epic Bofors guns + Me saving 60€ / 228.000 coal

Yah - Everyone, from CC to Youtubers and your Average Joe, that had the.... Erhm.. 'Pleasure' of sailing this Meh-boat agrees. Hopefully word spreads quick enough that a few sorry souls won't part with their coal, or god forbid, cash. Just want to emphasize - Do NOT buy this boat unless you are a hardcore collecter. She WILL be a port queen before you done a dozen matches and given up on her. Want a 'free' torpedo spammer? Get the Halland and it's god-tier AA. Want a 'free' German DD? Get the sister-ship Z-46, you might not be spamming at the same rate, but everything else is better + Hydro. Or just roll with any other Tier IX DD which beats the Z-44 in all possible ways - And save yourself the cash and coal.

Amen brother O7

I will take whatever you are smoking. 'One of the better ones...'? Really? There is absolutely ZERO reason to take the Z-44 over anything else in the game. Asking 60€ / 228.000 coal for this ship is borderline robbery. Hydro would be a gamechanger on the Z-44 - Otherwise it is just a torpedo spammer (With torpedos that hit like fluffy rabbits) that get outspotted by any other DD and have to defend itself with the WORST guns I ever experienced at Tier IX. If anyone spend cash or coal on this, they will be sorely disappointed.

Ha ha 🙂🙃 In all honestly, I cannot even fathom why they would ever release a ship like this, it makes other meh-boats look like OP god-tier super-boats. It sends a shiver down my spine that they actually BUFFED the concealment right before release (To 6.1....lol?) - Could you imagine sailing around in a designated torpedo DD, without hydro, with the old concealment? *Face palm* 6.1 is already bad enough. What scares me the most is that SOMEONE was apparently testing it before release and thought 'Yah, we better lower concealment just a tad and she will be perfect' - I am bewildered. Grab yourself a cup of your favorite beverage, go look up Notser or Toptier review of the Z-44, and be prepared to loose all faith. 60€ / 228.000 coal ..... Really Wargaming, really?! Hopefully this post will turn at least 1 person off buying it, saving them their cash / coal.

No Hydro = No buy-o - In other words, trash ship for an obscene amount of cash. With Hydro it would be ALOT more intresting.