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Poster_2015 #1 Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:50 PM

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Just wondering about your opinion guys, but while Friant is very solid when you grind through her, it feels it will be insanely OP with high lvl captain for sealclubbing. 139mm guns benefitting from both AFT and BFT means you outrange all the BBs and other cruisers, you actually hit stuff , you are fast enough to run away, and with IFHE you have no problems dealing dmg. Any thoughts?

Smeggo #2 Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:59 PM

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Interesting for a T3, but absolutely no armor. The T2 can eat the Friant alive.

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Gnirf #3 Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:05 PM

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Well I will try to get at least a 10 cpt on Friant to test your theory, but I am now on T5 and will return from time to tim to Friant as I have the same feeling, I like cruiser play at lower tiers T2-4 so she is promising as the D-T. Emile Bertin I am less certain of , she is not an advancement of T4 D-T if you take into account MM and strenght Tier for tier.

 

Friant looked very promising when I grinded through her yesterday, but it remains to be seen in a more normal environment, she will be deleted easily by BBs. Now it is most other French crusiers as opponents.



Poster_2015 #4 Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:58 PM

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Thing about Friant is that neither T2 or BBs will "eat her alive", since only Myogi can match her range - and she is actually very good dmg dealer at this range with IFHE. Its actually at least 14 point captain though for full use - without IFHE your long range damage lacks, without AFT you get inside enemy range and Friant is very squishy. 

Anson_111 #5 Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:04 PM

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RN Cruisers citadel her with ease

lafeel #6 Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:38 PM

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View PostAnson_111, on 21 April 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

RN Cruisers citadel her with ease

 

Probably returns the favour too. :P

 

Did get a nice 66k damage game in her in my very first drive though last night.



Seisset #7 Posted 21 April 2017 - 10:55 PM

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well, friant is a nice ship, but the shell-arcs at long range will probably drive you crazy... i don't think that it will be OP with a 14 point captain. i had very nice games with this ship too with 33k average damage, but the guns simply lack power for the slow reload... 

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Awful shell trajectory arc (made me feel my cleveland had rail guns lol), zero armor (compared to the St Louis at same tiers for instance), awful reload time : just that does not qualify the ship for "monster" for the tiers. It can take real advantage of its long range guns.

I just cant wait to get enough xp to get the tiers 4 ship myself and will sell the Friant with no regrets.

Though, with so many torp launchers and decent range torps : makes a nice ambush cruiser. You just rely a lot on other players and environment for this.



Ubertron_X #9 Posted 22 April 2017 - 03:29 PM

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Friant = absolute garbage

 

I will take a St. Louis or Tenryu over this POS anytime. Arcs and travel time of shells are outrageous. Requires at least 2 monitors to have sufficient lead even on battleships.



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View PostUbertron_X, on 22 April 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

Friant = absolute garbage

 

I will take a St. Louis or Tenryu over this POS anytime. Arcs and travel time of shells are outrageous. Requires at least 2 monitors to have sufficient lead even on battleships.

 

I think this has more to do with personal preferences on how to play than ships' capabilities.

My personal experience is that from the Friant to the Émile Bertin, the current tier of french cruisers that I am at, are all ships that win games through their sheer firepower and superior mobility and are better at angling AP than is immediately apparent.

They are ships that are made to win games by absolutely dominating enemy cruisers and destroyers by their strong AP and HE and they do so very well, better than all other nations at those tiers IMHO. Can't say anything above tier V as I do not have french cruisers above tier V so might get dissapointed there?


 

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Trainspite #11 Posted 22 April 2017 - 10:34 PM

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Friant ideally should be tier 4 with a faster reload. As of now she is frustrating to play because of the reload to try and put her in a tier in which she doesn't fit.

Ubertron_X #12 Posted 23 April 2017 - 12:19 AM

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View Postatomskytten, on 22 April 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

They are ships that are made to win games by absolutely dominating enemy cruisers and destroyers by their strong AP and HE and they do so very well, better than all other nations at those tiers IMHO.

 

You cant dominate what you cant hit...

Trainspite #13 Posted 23 April 2017 - 02:08 AM

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View PostUbertron_X, on 23 April 2017 - 12:19 AM, said:

 

You cant dominate what you cant hit...

 

Git gut m8.

 

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1MajorKoenig #14 Posted 23 April 2017 - 05:51 AM

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View PostTrainspite, on 22 April 2017 - 10:34 PM, said:

Friant ideally should be tier 4 with a faster reload. As of now she is frustrating to play because of the reload to try and put her in a tier in which she doesn't fit.

 

I don't understand why they picked her. She's paper isn't she? And totally out of era - there would have been much better choices.


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atomskytten #15 Posted 23 April 2017 - 07:15 AM

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View PostUbertron_X, on 23 April 2017 - 01:19 AM, said:

 

You cant dominate what you cant hit...

 

But isn't that the case with all the tier 3 cruisers, floaty arcs?
 

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Gnirf #16 Posted 23 April 2017 - 04:27 PM

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View Post1MajorKoenig, on 23 April 2017 - 05:51 AM, said:

 

I don't understand why they picked her. She's paper isn't she? And totally out of era - there would have been much better choices.

 

She is an early design that lead up to T4 D-T class. 

But Frances problem is that she never bult any of the scouts/light cruisers that were frequent in most other navies in the WW1 Era. The alternative were to have used a old armoured cruiser, from the S:T Louis era.Most of these were twin calibre shgips with (often 2x2 194 mm) and 12-16 164mm. If not you went for the Waldeck Rosseau 14-194 mm on 14000 tons 23 kts, but they are big slow ships. So it is a problem there.


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