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Poll: Do we need a Moderator for the "Port" Chat? (56 members have cast votes)

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Do we need a moderated Port Chat?

  1. Yes some Moderators would be fine. (31 votes [55.36%] - View)

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  2. No the Chat should stay as it is. (19 votes [33.93%] - View)

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txtspeak #21 Posted 03 April 2017 - 06:33 PM

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View PostMoveZig, on 03 April 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

Now you have trolls literally calling for genocide. Don't you even care, WG?

 

its online gaming, no one does seem to care.

 

I tested this out one day, logged onto TF2 and begged everyone to join the Nazi party

the immediate response was "Yeah!" "Good idea!" "F*ck the J*ws"

 

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WHY!?!??!

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Skycat79 #22 Posted 05 April 2017 - 11:07 PM

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View Posttxtspeak, on 03 April 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

because online gaming

 

Totally agree, some People hiding behind their Screens and IP Adresses and throw Things in the Chat that are below the Belt and even below the "normal" Line. Im not sure, why they dont react on it...but it seems its more important to release the next Update with French Cruisers while the 6.3. Version isnt still running smooth (doesnt matter how many BugReports are in the Forum)But Hey, since i found a Guy with 6k Battles and a Destruction Ratio of 0,06% with Tier X Ships ... i still have the Hope someone wakes up and takes care of the Chat or Reports itself...

Lets say it straight, if you write something against the Forum Rules - you get punished for it. If you write something in the Port Chat, which is against the Rules...nothing happends! Why? Lack of Moderators.


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Skycat79 #23 Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:45 PM

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I still hope for "any" Reply, but i dont even get an Answer from no where... just the Fact more and more Guys in the Chat asking for Moderator who could give helpfull advices same as banning Guys who are off the Road...

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Amon_ITA #24 Posted 16 April 2017 - 06:57 PM

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I don't like moderation as a principle. Because I'm giving someone else the power to decide what's legit to write and what is not. I don't like either all that sensitivity I read on various forums. People being offended by anything. I love free speech. If someone is saying something I find offensive I don't automatically think that such thing should be offensive for everyone. If someone is trolling I just ignore and go on.

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AgarwaenME #25 Posted 16 April 2017 - 07:06 PM

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View PostAmon_ITA, on 16 April 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

I don't like moderation as a principle. Because I'm giving someone else the power to decide what's legit to write and what is not. I don't like either all that sensitivity I read on various forums. People being offended by anything. I love free speech. If someone is saying something I find offensive I don't automatically think that such thing should be offensive for everyone. If someone is trolling I just ignore and go on.

Remember that free speech is one of the most important rights we have. Don't throw it away from nothing.

 

 

"free speech" does not apply to private fora. If you wanted to to sit at your home talking to people about cars, and someone sat there swearing and insisting you all should talk about politics, then you'd be very much in your right to ask him to stop or leave. "Free speech" would only apply if you had the police coming to your house and say that you couldn't talk about cars or you'd be punished.

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Skycat79 #26 Posted 19 April 2017 - 01:27 AM

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Of course you can share your free Thoughts in the Chat, with limitations (and those are located in the EULA) ... but i can give you at least one Example, while it was helpfull to have a Moderator Online: The Server got some massive Issues and serval Conflicts and BigBadVuk contacted MrConway and ask him, whats going on... and it was a Holiday (not normal Workday) and only because of this Contact, they managed to restart the Server (or what ever) and make the Game playable again. And also some helpfull advices, where to find "knowledge base" Articles and Customer Support and all those Things...


Strange that it seems, most of the People thinking... a Moderator is only for banning People, no he is not...  and also strange is, you dont get an official Statement from a Mod (in the Forum) what happens... Surely, the World of Warships Chat compared to the World of Tanks Chat is a very friendly Place... but, WHERE is the Issue, to find a New Moderator for the Port Chat if BBV is not available?


Edited by Skycat79, 19 April 2017 - 01:28 AM.

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Kaptain_Tripps #27 Posted 19 April 2017 - 03:29 AM

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I guess the game could use something like EVE online uses, a rookie chat channel.

 

All new players would have access to it for their first 500 or so battles after which they get booted. A veteran player could also join the channel to help these newbies out after say 3000 battles and a certain win rate / tier reached / whatever. The veterans would be there to answer newbie questions, division with them and so on. Occasionally the devs could pop in and do the same. Make this channel a strictly on topic channel.

General chat should remain a random cess pool, trying to change that would be waste of time and energy and spoil fun for some people.



 


Skycat79 #28 Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:31 PM

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Well regarding to a Message which i post here:

 

(not copy the Name - by Rules)

 

Regarding in-game moderation, we are looking into the best solutions for this and it is not something we are ignoring. Following the rules in chat is very important to us and even though our in-game moderation doesn't seem to be the most active at the moment, we suggest always using the in-game report option whenever someone breaks the rules.

 

I tend so say (as some Friend does) : This (Port) Chat has yet to really need moderation


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mtm78 #29 Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:13 PM

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I thought the 'not posting private messages' rule wasn't about the names but about everything ( including the content ). Could be wrong though. 

 

On topic: the quote talking about in game report option when the thread is actually about 'port chat' iirc, well... it's kinda an expected answer right :popcorn: 


"First they nerfed the carriers and I didn't speak out because I didn't play carriers.                                    Then they nerfed the torpedoes and I didn't speak out because I didn't play IJN DDs.

Then they nerfed cruiser HE and I didn't speak out because I didn't spam HE.                                             Then they nerved concealment on every class except BB's, and I didn't speak out because I didn't have common sense

Then the BBabies came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me."        

 


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Well maybe true as well, but using the Customer Support if you run out of Reports (Compliments are rare anyway) is a bit odd against the Customer Support (because they almost use to take 72Hours to answer on a Ticket) and if you read only "we cant tell what we will do, but we handle this Situation", im not sure if that fits for the Guys who send Screenshots and Replays about a Rule Violation. So what ever - this is about the Moderation of the Port Chat, especially now - while its Patch Day and some Guys might have Questions and dont look at the Forum... so...


Edited by Skycat79, 20 April 2017 - 02:45 PM.

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mtm78 #31 Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

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Yeah, and 'use in game report system' doesn't apply to port chat unless I been right clicking names wrong and there is a menu which shows up which says 'report' :D

 

I do know that support does sanction people who are reported manually, heard it from several people. But, their standard reply 'use in game report system' is just there to discourage people from filing manual reports. 


"First they nerfed the carriers and I didn't speak out because I didn't play carriers.                                    Then they nerfed the torpedoes and I didn't speak out because I didn't play IJN DDs.

Then they nerfed cruiser HE and I didn't speak out because I didn't spam HE.                                             Then they nerved concealment on every class except BB's, and I didn't speak out because I didn't have common sense

Then the BBabies came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me."        

 


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Hey guys!

 

Our in-game moderation is indeed lacking a bit at the moment, however we are already working on a solution. Personally I think that, while the WoWS chat is a relatively friendly place, we still need to ensure that it remains so and we have to deal with people who try to misuse it. We will keep you guys posted about this. 



Jethro_Grey #33 Posted 20 April 2017 - 04:35 PM

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Well, i'd volunteer to moderate the port chat, at least in the evening and when i'm not playing.

Oh, and when no chatban is in effect of course, as the chatban prevents me from chating in port too.

 

 


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View PostJethro_Grey, on 20 April 2017 - 05:35 PM, said:

Oh, and when no chatban is in effect of course, as the chatban prevents me from chating in port too.

 

There is a Hungarian saying (fun fact: I am Hungarian) which goes like this: "You shouldn't trust the goat with the cabbage". I think this saying applies in this situation :P

 

On a more serious note, we already have a set of capable moderators working on the forums and I hope that in the future they will also be able to make the in-game chat a better place. 

 



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View PostPh3lan, on 20 April 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

 

There is a Hungarian saying (fun fact: I am Hungarian) which goes like this: "You shouldn't trust the goat with the cabbage". I think this saying applies in this situation :P

 

On a more serious note, we already have a set of capable moderators working on the forums and I hope that in the future they will also be able to make the in-game chat a better place. 

 

 

Yeah, it does indeed...it'd be like letting the fox guard the hen house ^^

Tho i cannot stress the fact that the report i receive are unjustified as i'm acting... in self defense.

 

Glad the irony came through, and in regards to the chat moderation: there's always the option to use bots which react to specified words or phrases in the mean time.

 

 


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View PostPh3lan, on 20 April 2017 - 05:30 PM, said:

Personally I think that, while the WoWS chat is a relatively friendly place

 

I may have been playing in a quite more protected environment before playing pretty much only World of Warcraft and Kerbal Space Program (oh boy, their forums are like heaven) but I am still shocked pretty much every time I play WoWs to see at least personal insults, racism or any combination of those. If it is not the insults then there are some trolls playing their pranks and being rude in general. That is the case for both the forums and the in-game chat.

 

So yes, it is a relatively friendly place...


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View PostPh3lan, on 20 April 2017 - 04:50 PM, said:

 

There is a Hungarian saying (fun fact: I am Hungarian) which goes like this: "You shouldn't trust the goat with the cabbage". I think this saying applies in this situation :P

 

On a more serious note, we already have a set of capable moderators working on the forums and I hope that in the future they will also be able to make the in-game chat a better place. 

 

From my experience on playing WOWS I have not seen a single mod for months now, with the rise of clans, bots are coming more and more common as people advertise their communities, BBV was a mod for the whole thing and handled it single handily, but he struggled. I know how hard it is to be a Mod ect. ( I was a mod on EVE online, and still am, but have resigned as an active member, so I only really come in on during big events) and I know how much time it really takes to be a mod, but a lot of the community are retired and have time to kill. My own clan leader is a retired Stg. Major and I myself an ex-navy officers and now our own families have grown up, after of course some type of test/interview, we would be happy to volunteer or do some rejuced deal WG was with current mods.



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View PostZ_OnkelE, on 20 April 2017 - 06:15 PM, said:

I play WoWs to see at least personal insults, racism or any combination of those.

 

Thats one of the Reasons, why i would like to see not only English Moderators because sadly (almost) German Guys tend to throw Insults that nobody wants to hear "Hint: WW2" and some English speaking Mods cant understand what they are up to. But what so ever, thanks Ph3lan for that Statement :) i guess thats gonna be sorted out in a While.


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View PostZ_OnkelE, on 20 April 2017 - 05:15 PM, said:

 

I may have been playing in a quite more protected environment before playing pretty much only World of Warcraft and Kerbal Space Program (oh boy, their forums are like heaven) but I am still shocked pretty much every time I play WoWs to see at least personal insults, racism or any combination of those. If it is not the insults then there are some trolls playing their pranks and being rude in general. That is the case for both the forums and the in-game chat.

 

So yes, it is a relatively friendly place...

 

The difference there is that everyone is invested in the game. ie they have payed to play, unfortunatly every free to play game suffers from these forms of trolls and general idiots who think its acceptable to hurl this virtol around the internet, and since its free to play will simply make another account if one is banned.

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View PostSkycat79, on 20 April 2017 - 08:26 PM, said:

because sadly (almost) German Guys tend to throw Insults that nobody wants to hear "Hint: WW2" and some English speaking Mods cant understand what they are up to.

 

I have seen rather the opposite with very harsh discription of the German people, regarding the more recent history in the EU. In the end it's both racism but I can understand the practical reason for German speaking moderators.

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