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Tuuletar #1 Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:41 PM

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robihr #3 Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:47 PM

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200mm guns for secondaries? they should just put them as primary, so dd cant hunt them :trollface:



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ye nice , but its gona be nerfed before out anyway

 

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eliastion #5 Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:32 PM

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View PostxXx_Blogis_xXx, on 20 March 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

ye nice , but its gona be nerfed before out anyway

 

We know nothing about what she could do in the first draft, so it's hard to talk about her being nerfed... 

Basically, it's a CV. For other ships one can make some guesses about their performance based on gun number and size, historical armor layout, historical max speed etc. CVs? None of these really matters. You could have a CV with half the hp of other CVs at the same tier, 15kn max speed and she could well be the best CV around based on available planes and loadouts. 

 

What we see is:

90 plane hangar

7-8 fighters (depending on whether the one during take-off counts), 10 dive bombers and 10 torp bombers on deck. So, it's quite possible that one of the loadouts would have one huge fighter group (7 fighters) and big (for IJN) bomber groups (2x5 TB, 2x5 DB) or with otherwise asymetric groups 2x4,2x5,2x5 - but even if we assume that, we still lack the knowledge of what planes are these going to be! Could be low-ish tier (to balance out bigger groups and reserves). Could be asimetric (good fighters but slow and squishy bombers, for example)... It's hard to talk about nerfing when we know nothing about the "current" most important stats.

And that's AFTER assuming that the planes we see on the pictures reflect one of the actual loadouts. And there could well be more than one, right?

 


Edited by eliastion, 20 March 2017 - 10:33 PM.


Ictogan #6 Posted 20 March 2017 - 10:51 PM

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View PostxXx_Blogis_xXx, on 20 March 2017 - 11:49 PM, said:

ye nice , but its gona be nerfed before out anyway

 

Nah, she's a premium, she will probably just be released in an OP state.

 

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dasCKD #7 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:11 PM

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The 7 planes on the front has one red dot and one stripe, which would correspond to the Aichi D3A1 tier 6 dive bomber. This is odd because the planes on the front are smaller than the other two sets, suggesting that they are instead fighters. This would either mean she might be getting fighters not available in the game right now, or War Gaming are screwing around with the art assets again. The 10 planes in the middle are almost certainly the Nakajima B5N2, the top torpedo bombers on both the Ryujo and the Hiryu. The 10 planes at the rear are a bit hard to identify. They have the same red dot and red band of the Aichi D3A1, but those planes has a red mark on the tail which the Aichi doesn't have. Apart from the torpedo bomber, Kaga might be getting entirely new planes with distinct stats for her loadout.

"First they nerfed the carriers and I didn't speak out because I didn't play carriers.

Then they nerfed the torpedoes and I didn't speak out because I didn't play IJN DDs.

Then they nerfed cruiser HE and I didn't speak out because I didn't spam HE.

Then the BBabies came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me."                            Artist page ->http://www.pixiv.net...id=5192176


Hawker96 #8 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:31 PM

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View PostdasCKD, on 20 March 2017 - 11:11 PM, said:

The 7 planes on the front has one red dot and one stripe, which would correspond to the Aichi D3A1 tier 6 dive bomber. This is odd because the planes on the front are smaller than the other two sets, suggesting that they are instead fighters. This would either mean she might be getting fighters not available in the game right now, or War Gaming are screwing around with the art assets again. The 10 planes in the middle are almost certainly the Nakajima B5N2, the top torpedo bombers on both the Ryujo and the Hiryu. The 10 planes at the rear are a bit hard to identify. They have the same red dot and red band of the Aichi D3A1, but those planes has a red mark on the tail which the Aichi doesn't have. Apart from the torpedo bomber, Kaga might be getting entirely new planes with distinct stats for her loadout.

 

The 7 aircraft at the front are Mitsibushi A6M2s, followed by  Nakajima B5N2s and Aichi D3A1 in that order from front to back. 

 

Bare in mind that its just artwork and the camo/schemes may not be entirely historical or look the same by the time it makes it in game. But they are 100% A6M2s at the front. 


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AkosJaccik #9 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:32 PM

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View PostdasCKD, on 20 March 2017 - 11:11 PM, said:

The 7 planes on the front has one red dot and one stripe, which would correspond to the Aichi D3A1 tier 6 dive bomber. (...) The 10 planes at the rear are a bit hard to identify. They have the same red dot and red band of the Aichi D3A1, but those planes has a red mark on the tail which the Aichi doesn't have. Apart from the torpedo bomber.

 

My take on the issue is that the planes at the rear are the D3A1's, as for example they seem to have the black anti-reflective coating reaching to the cockpit, as seen here. The plane currently taking off could be some sort of "Zero" (the model is apparently a Type 32, not that it matters as the art doesn't give a whole lot of helping hand to identify it), as the "bomb" it carries can be a fuel tank. The parts painted black on the engine also seem to check out.



Elenortirion #10 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:34 PM

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am I the only one here who likes 3-deck [pre-remodel] version of this ship? ;P

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El2aZeR #11 Posted 20 March 2017 - 11:35 PM

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View PostdasCKD, on 21 March 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

The 7 planes on the front has one red dot and one stripe, which would correspond to the Aichi D3A1 tier 6 dive bomber.

 

2 red stripes actually, which according to ingame color schemes would make it a T6 Zero with the blue stripes changed to red. Could be an oversight or simple laziness.

Then again they could introduce some sort of T6.5 fighter to make Kaga be able to fight toe to toe with her contemporaries.

 

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View PostHawker96, on 21 March 2017 - 12:31 AM, said:

The 7 aircraft at the front are Mitsibushi A6M2s, followed by  Nakajima B5N2s and Aichi D3A1 in that order from front to back. 

 

Bare in mind that its just artwork and the camo/schemes may not be entirely historical or look the same by the time it makes it in game. But they are 100% A6M2s at the front.

 

I'm just going by what the art assets currently looks like inside of the game client. If she runs the exact same planes as the tier 6, I have no major objections with that. It might make her a bit hard to balance at tier 7 with just 1 fighter squad, but if I could make do with the Ranger I can make do with her as well. Hiryu probably still has my pick for competitive though.

View PostElenortirion, on 21 March 2017 - 12:34 AM, said:

am I the only one here who likes 3-deck [pre-remodel] version of this ship? ;P

 

I don't like her. She looks like an ocean liner. From a post-apocalypse film.


Edited by dasCKD, 20 March 2017 - 11:52 PM.

"First they nerfed the carriers and I didn't speak out because I didn't play carriers.

Then they nerfed the torpedoes and I didn't speak out because I didn't play IJN DDs.

Then they nerfed cruiser HE and I didn't speak out because I didn't spam HE.

Then the BBabies came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me."                            Artist page ->http://www.pixiv.net...id=5192176


Elenortirion #13 Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:11 AM

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View PostdasCKD, on 20 March 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

 

 

I don't like her. She looks like an ocean liner. From a post-apocalypse film.

 

you mean in her original state or after the removal of two flight decks?

Yaskaraxx #14 Posted 21 March 2017 - 03:35 AM

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View PostTuuletar, on 20 March 2017 - 09:41 PM, said:

Coming to Warships!

 

Just took notice of it: THAT IS REALY A REAL COOL & VERY IMPRESSIVE SHIP!!:izmena::B Looks real great. I am mostly CL/CA-player but that one for me defenitely = a must have. Yes, I will get that one for sure.

And I see some guys talking "balancings" & so, but imo WG is great at balancing, so no doubt in my mind thats going to be all ok.

 

Looked at it & made up my mind right away.: great ship & i will get it for sure!



JingoJaden #15 Posted 21 March 2017 - 04:38 AM

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View Postrobihr, on 20 March 2017 - 09:47 PM, said:

200mm guns for secondaries? they should just put them as primary, so dd cant hunt them :trollface:

 

That would be interesting, a CV that could double as a bad ship of the line. 

159Hunter #16 Posted 21 March 2017 - 04:45 AM

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Hmmm, I thought WG said they wouldn't release any more premium CVs before reworking CVs alltogether?

El2aZeR #17 Posted 21 March 2017 - 04:57 AM

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View Post159Hunter, on 21 March 2017 - 05:45 AM, said:

Hmmm, I thought WG said they wouldn't release any more premium CVs before reworking CVs alltogether?

 

Maybe it means the rework will be coming with it?

I mean, I doubt it, but one can hope, right?


   


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View Post159Hunter, on 21 March 2017 - 04:45 AM, said:

Hmmm, I thought WG said they wouldn't release any more premium CVs before reworking CVs alltogether?

 

I thought the same.

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Where is the promised Graaf Zeppelin? :izmena:

albinbino #20 Posted 21 March 2017 - 07:22 AM

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What tier ? 

Tier 7 , i see it now. Did not see it first from my phone :)







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